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| NARP74 |
Aug 5 2026, 08:52 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,508 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Someone had tried an electric pump conversion in my car. The switch is wired but they never finished the job. The wires were the wrong length and I decided to fix them.
I remember reading an article about the space shuttle. They said it had no soldered wire connections anywhere, everything was crimped. Soldered connections were to a board with a connector, not wires. Fast forward many years and I saw an interview with a Porsche mechanic and he said Porsche spec is no soldered wire connections. My first thought was to grab a soldering iron and use it to extend the wires. Am I being old school? |
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| 914werke |
Aug 5 2026, 08:57 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,720 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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No. use crimps with the proper tool wherever possible
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| Cairo94507 |
Aug 5 2026, 08:58 AM
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Michael ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,731 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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I have soldered wires and shrink-wrapped them. So long as the wire is clean, you use a flux-solder and good heat, I do not see an issue. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| Root_Werks |
Aug 5 2026, 09:30 AM
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Village Idiot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,043 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 15NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I typically crimp, yes, use a correct crimping tool.
Wonder why no soldering? Corrode over time? |
| NARP74 |
Aug 5 2026, 09:38 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,508 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I think they said it made the wire too brittle. What's the point of stranded wire for flex when you add solder to make it solid. I would guess vibration would be an issue in a space shuttle.
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| GregAmy |
Aug 5 2026, 10:01 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,692 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States
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I think they said it made the wire too brittle. This. Same with aviation (well, general aviation, at least). I always crimp, using the best set of ratcheting crimpers I could find. I built my Microsquirt engine harness with Deutsch connectors and crimping the terminals. I will, however, use soldering when I join two wires inline with a "telegraph/lineman's splice" and heatshrink to support it as strain relief. EDIT: I learned electric design and implementation many years ago from a guy that used to travel and give build seminars, Bob Nuckols of the Aeroelectric Connection. I have his book and attended a couple of his seminars and talks. What I learned from him has been incredibly valuable. Bob hasn't been around lately but I hear he's still kicking... Anyway, the point of this is to link to this article about how to do soldered connections well (take some time to brwose through the whole web site). Here's his ending paragraph: Dispelling a Myth Some folks recommend a combination of soldering in addition to crimped joints for reliability. Keep in mind that the Boeings, Beeches, Pipers and even the lowly Cessnas haven’t soldered a terminal on a wire in over 30 years. People like AMP and Molex have carved an honorable place for themselves in the aviation marketplace selling termination systems that do not require solder to achieve the highest levels of reliability. Please forget the solder. http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/terminal.pdf |
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