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Starter bolts, Where is the top bolt? Pix pls.

KaptKaos	Nov 13 2005, 07:25 PM Post #1
Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest	I am still trouble-shooting my intermittant starting problem. Last two days, the car has started perfectly. Kinda hard to troubleshoot with no problems. Anyway, I was looking for where the top bolt comes thru in the engine bay and can't locate it for the life of me. WHat am I missing? Do I need to pull the tin?

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bd1308	Nov 13 2005, 07:27 PM Post #2
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	if you have a 2.0 its underneath the airbox, mounted directly to the flywheel area in the back, driver side. actually it doesnt matter what engine you have. it'll be there. its also next to the injector grounds. b

davep	Nov 13 2005, 08:56 PM Post #3
914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,152 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada	15mm nut in the engine bay on the engine case. If the 15mm fits, you have the correct nut.

jimtab	Nov 13 2005, 09:31 PM Post #4
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California	What they said....once you find it you'll never forget it..

bd1308	Nov 13 2005, 09:36 PM Post #5
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	first starter change took around two hours. next one took five minutes.

KaptKaos

Nov 13 2005, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Nov 13 2005, 07:36 PM)

first starter change took around two hours.

next one took five minutes.

Exactly what I am trying to avoid.

Gonna carry a small ball peen hammer to tap the solanoid when it doesn't start next time.

bd1308	Nov 13 2005, 10:48 PM Post #7
Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501	uh i used a BFH. carried it in my car. looked like an idiot on the wet ground banging on my car.

rhodyguy	Nov 14 2005, 08:38 AM Post #8
Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,092 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch	happy monday. the bolt goes through from the rear. the bolt head is captured by a notch on the starter. the nut lives on the engine side of the tin. k Attached image(s)

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Nov 14 2005, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE (davep @ Nov 13 2005, 06:56 PM)

15mm nut in the engine bay on the engine case. If the 15mm fits, you have the correct nut.

Unless some doofus has replaced it with a 17mm nut .................... The Cap'n

zymurgist

Nov 14 2005, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Nov 13 2005, 10:36 PM)

first starter change took around two hours.

next one took five minutes.

LOL! Been there, done that. Once you find that nut, you'll never forget it. And you won't look at the bolt and see how it's captured by the casting and wonder how the heck you're ever going to get the bolt to turn.

zymurgist

Nov 14 2005, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Nov 13 2005, 11:45 PM)

Gonna carry a small ball peen hammer to tap the solanoid when it doesn't start next time.

Wow... I thought that was a GM thing. I used to carry a BFH in my '77 Firebird for that purpose.

mharrison	Nov 14 2005, 10:02 AM Post #12
Why do I bother???? Group: Members Posts: 633 Joined: 8-September 03 From: Madison, MS Member No.: 1,123	Anybody know of a source for the factory bolt with the "D" shaped head?

zymurgist	Nov 14 2005, 10:09 AM Post #13
"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None	Did you check with Pelican? If it's not on the website, call them and ask if they have it.

KaptKaos	Nov 14 2005, 10:13 AM Post #14
Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest	So access to that bolt is from the bottom, not the top then?

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Nov 14 2005, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Nov 14 2005, 08:13 AM)

So access to that bolt is from the bottom, not the top then?

The nut is accessed from the top, and that is what you have to remove.
The bolt is wedged by the starter.

Disconnect the battery first, then disconnect the electrical connectors.
Then start by removing the upper nut from inside the engine compartment.
Then you remove the lower nut from the starter side underneath.
Then you can pull the whole starter (and upper bolt) from the transmission.
The lower nut is threaded on a stud that is threaded into the transmission.

KaptKaos

Nov 15 2005, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE (davep @ Nov 14 2005, 08:55 AM)

QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Nov 14 2005, 08:13 AM)

So access to that bolt is from the bottom, not the top then?

The nut is accessed from the top, and that is what you have to remove.
The bolt is wedged by the starter.

Disconnect the battery first, then disconnect the electrical connectors.
Then start by removing the upper nut from inside the engine compartment.
Then you remove the lower nut from the starter side underneath.
Then you can pull the whole starter (and upper bolt) from the transmission.
The lower nut is threaded on a stud that is threaded into the transmission.

Thanks very much for the details, one last question?

Do I need to remove any tin to get at the nut from the top? I looked for it the other day and couldn't locate it.

Also, I used my hammer this AM. Yup, starter is going.

SirAndy

Nov 15 2005, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Nov 15 2005, 01:21 PM)

Do I need to remove any tin to get at the nut from the top? I looked for it the other day and couldn't locate it.

nope. it's right there. follow the red arrow.

open engine lid, remove air cleaner, look for it on the drivers side, top of engine block, near the rear tin.

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KaptKaos	Nov 15 2005, 03:32 PM Post #18
Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest	remove air cleaner AH HA!! That's what I am talking about! Thank you muchly.

KaptKaos	Nov 17 2005, 12:40 PM Post #19
Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest	Right. So I ordered my compact stater last night, should be here tomorrow. Any last hints before I lose skin on my knuckles?

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Nov 17 2005, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Nov 17 2005, 11:40 AM)

Any last hints before I lose skin on my knuckles?

while you're under there, check the tranny ground-strap ...

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