3.2 Motor on Ebay, Opinions from the /6 guys please. |
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3.2 Motor on Ebay, Opinions from the /6 guys please. |
Allan |
Dec 9 2005, 11:39 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
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Root_Werks |
Dec 9 2005, 11:44 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Pretty much a bullet proof engine as far as air cooled flat 6's go. The 86' on eBay is the later more hp version. I think around 214hp or so. Certainly a great engine for a 914.
They do weigh more and I think, not sure, but think you have to use a 915 trans with them? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) |
DanT |
Dec 9 2005, 11:52 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
3.2L is a fairly bullet proof motor. some of them did have valve guide seal problems.
The motor will work with a 901 tranny but be very careful. Lots of torque....too much power at a 1-2 shift, may lead to ripping 2nd gear off of the main shaft. How do I know this? Well, my 2.7RS motor did just that 4 times in 5 years. I just figured it was tranny rebuild about once per year. A good buddy of mine had the same issues with his 3.2L conversion on his 914. I will say that both cars were track/AX cars and therefore got used pretty hard. In general great motor for a 914. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
goose2 |
Dec 9 2005, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It looks very nice in the photos and he has good positive feedback. The only red flag I see is his method of attaching to the engine stand....shouldn't a good Porsche shop have a proper adaptor? If you decide to go with a 3.0 or larger, be sure to budget around 600 for a clutch set-up...the 2.7 clutch won't work with a 901. Also, I bet those big Webers of yours would work well on a 3.2 if you don't want to use the injection.
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Ferg |
Dec 9 2005, 12:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Nope you can run a 901, i'm just easy untill i'm in second. So far so good with mine. Ferg. |
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brant |
Dec 9 2005, 12:10 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,640 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Dan, did you actually rip 2nd off of the shaft... or was it ripping 1st gear apart? |
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736conver |
Dec 9 2005, 12:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
Agree on the above. Valve guide issue is a common issue with the 3.2. If you plan on using a 915 expect to spend at least $5000.
That auction looks really familiar. Has it been up on ebay before? Just be careful, I almost got scammed on a 3.2, good thing I used a credit card and it saved me. If someone is in the area have them just do a general check on it. |
SLITS |
Dec 9 2005, 12:27 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Come on Allan, get out there and blow (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) that 2.7 up so that you have an excuse for
MORE HORSEPOWER You know you want to (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) |
DanT |
Dec 9 2005, 12:50 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Brant,
Yes, 2nd gear off the main shaft...4 times. No body can accuse me of babying my cars. 2.7RS motor had lots of torque Permanent fix would have been to find a 904 main shaft or $$$915 conversion. 3.2L with stock injection is a very reliable, easy to maintain setup. Forget the carbs if it comes with injection, ECU and harness. |
Marv's3.6six |
Dec 10 2005, 09:38 AM
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Actual member 7" Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California |
3.2's are a great motor, with Motronic just stick the key in the ignition and it goes every time, no hassles, very reliable.
They do wear valve guides and at 110k miles that ones prolly due for a valve job. These engines do consume oil @ 3/4 to 1 quart of oil per 1k miles, when they start consuming more and the exhaust gets a bit smokey the guides really need to be done. A light flywheel and an MAF with a good chip really wakes these motors up. When I put my MAF on it was night and day difference, it felt like a bunch more HP but more importantly the throttle response then became instantanious, it looses the "barn door" air flow meter throttle lag the 3.2's are known for. They're the last of the air cooled engines with the oil cooler on the engine i/e easier to swap. I would highly recommend that you go 1 5/8" headers and talk to Steve Wong about a chip. @ 911chips.com. You won't be dissapointed. |
Allan |
Dec 10 2005, 09:45 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
So ther than a clutch set-up, this would be a bolt in and go?
How difficult is it to get the FI wired in correctly? |
brant |
Dec 10 2005, 10:04 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,640 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Dan, I'm confused. the main shaft has the 2nd gear forged onto it (or at least cast as an intrugal unit). is it the other shaft that is destructing and not the main shaft? because cutting the 2nd gear off of the main shaft is nearly impossible, so how does it rip apart? If its actually ripping apart, I doubt that a 904 main shaft would do any better for you. I don't believe that the 904 is stronger, in fact probably weaker since its gear is designed to be removeable unlike a stock teener F or GA mainshaft. Perhaps the intermediate plate flex allows a 2nd gear to slip and tear a tooth off? Is that how they fail? brant |
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736conver |
Dec 10 2005, 11:46 AM
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Piece of cake. If you wired your 2.7 you will have no problems with this. All you really do is supply power to the brain and fuel pump. If you get the engine buy the bentley manual, it helps with trouble shooting. Or you can borrow mine. |
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sixnotfour |
Dec 10 2005, 12:34 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,436 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
3.2ebay ; I would find one closer to home (ask eddie914) you live in california porsche capitol of the country, then you can check it out and save shipping. Run the injection and be happy ,
Just be ready, now that your car runs you have some time. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif) |
Allan |
Dec 10 2005, 01:11 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
That's what I think I'll do. Took the car out yesterday for awhile and it seems to be holding together so far. I figure it should be good for maybe 1 or 2 more re-torques if it comes to that. Hell, for all I know it may stay together. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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Aaron Cox |
Dec 10 2005, 03:29 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
agree with brant... pretty hard to rip a fixed gear mainshaft (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) |
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anthony |
Dec 10 2005, 07:13 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
I wouldn't buy a used engine like this that I didn't see run and didn't have the mechanic of my choice do a compression/leakdown check on. There are too many risks with these engines to buy one on ebay.
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J P Stein |
Dec 10 2005, 07:17 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
There is nothing wrong with buying one.....as long as you pay "core" prices.....about $2500 in this case.
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Allan |
Dec 10 2005, 07:22 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Then it's already overpriced. Thanks... |
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J P Stein |
Dec 10 2005, 07:52 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I think a guy can safely buy an engine from one of the *regular* worshippers here or on Pelican.
Other than that, they're all cores...unless, as Andrew says, you can get your grubby mitts on em'. Guys that come to both places just sell stuff fall into the latter catagory....unless spoken for by one of the faithful. Just my .02. |
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