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trojanhorsepower
post Nov 4 2003, 10:52 PM
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Any one have any tips for making sure a 914 is straight before attempting a Long repair? Something that could be done without motor and trans? Or can point me to a thread to read?

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Sorry if this is an old topic, but I could not find much with the search function
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post Nov 4 2003, 11:11 PM
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Up at the top of the page is 914 Info (next to Events Calendar). Click on it and you will find the body gap specs.

Put the car on jack stands and check the gaps. Adjust as required.

take pictures as you go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 4 2003, 11:37 PM
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Great thanks!

One more thing, which of these would be considered critical indicators? I am guessing the obvious “h”. Any others?

-Pete

PS: Why is there no info on “y”?
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post Nov 4 2003, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(trojanhorsepower @ Nov 4 2003, 09:37 PM)
One more thing, which of these would be considered critical indicators? I am guessing the obvious “h”. Any others?

"f" is all you need to get a quick idea on how bad it is, providing you know for sure your windshield hoop is not bend.
(and if it is, this will tell you also)

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post Nov 4 2003, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 4 2003, 09:42 PM)
QUOTE(trojanhorsepower @ Nov 4 2003, 09:37 PM)
One more thing, which of these would be considered critical indicators?  I am guessing the obvious “h”.  Any others?

"f" is all you need to get a quick idea on how bad it is, providing you know for sure your windshield hoop is not bend.
(and if it is, this will tell you also)

Andy

hey, i like quoting myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

addon: use f and y to determine if your windshield-hoop is bend.

if not, look at g and see if it is off.

f will tell you if the car is sagging along the longs (f getting bigger)

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post Nov 4 2003, 11:50 PM
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I must be over looking something, because I can't find any data for the "y" measurment. Anyone know this one?

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post Nov 4 2003, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(trojanhorsepower @ Nov 4 2003, 09:50 PM)
I must be over looking something, because I can't find any data for the "y" measurment. Anyone know this one?

shit, you're right. someone forgot y.
plus, looking closer, it looks like y goes to the pass. side upper pilar. in this case it's useless anyways.

ok, now, you need:

f
g
h
x

where f will really tell you how much the car is sagging on either side.
my f actually shrank 1/4" during weld-in of the roll-cage ...

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post Nov 5 2003, 12:11 AM
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OK that should keep me out of trouble for a while.

Thanks again

-Pete
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post Nov 5 2003, 01:13 AM
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Actually Andy.. your car didnt shrink. It stayed right where it was. We measured all the cars before and after. The only one that shrank was Julius on one side (the side we didnt put the brace in).


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post Nov 5 2003, 06:12 AM
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If all measures up, put some braces in the doorgaps.
This will help prevent in- or decresing the distance between the targa bar and the windshiel hoop.

You can build a simple frame that will help the car from sagging as well (supports the car over a larger area than just jack stands)

(IMG:http://www.rennware.com/914/pics/r_long06.jpg)

Now you can hack with conficence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

cheers,

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post Nov 5 2003, 06:20 AM
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Good idea Jeroen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (adding that to my things to build list)
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post Nov 5 2003, 08:37 AM
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Jeroen,

Does that frame/brace include something to prop up the back and front of the car? Or should that not really be a concern?

Thanks

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post Nov 5 2003, 09:02 AM
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Hey Pete,

No, it does not support the front or rear of the car. Just the longs
But if you put doorbraces in it, it'll do just fine

cheers,

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post Nov 5 2003, 09:12 AM
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OK great!

Maybe I will be able to get to the steel yard today and get some of that square tubing.

-Pete
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post Nov 5 2003, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 4 2003, 11:13 PM)
Actually Andy.. your car didnt shrink. It stayed right where it was. We measured all the cars before and after. The only one that shrank was Julius on one side (the side we didnt put the brace in).

actually brad... it did!

spec is 25 1/8 and mine measures right under 25.
top didn't fit anymore, the rubber spacers were sitting on top of the targa bar instead of in their grooves on the lock.
the side-seals were too long (had to cut them) ...

Andy
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post Nov 5 2003, 02:46 PM
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Now I wonder why the other cars didnt shrink.

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post Nov 5 2003, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 5 2003, 12:46 PM)
Now I wonder why the other cars didnt shrink.

because the longs are completely rusted out on mine?
or, when it was hit, the metal was weakend?
or, tony was holding on to the windshield-hoop while he was brachiating (sp?) around in the car?

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post Nov 5 2003, 03:08 PM
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I wonder if you grabbed another top.. LOL


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post Nov 5 2003, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 5 2003, 01:08 PM)
I wonder if you grabbed another top.. LOL

hmmm, now here's a thought ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Nov 5 2003, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(trojanhorsepower @ Nov 4 2003, 09:50 PM)
I must be over looking something, because I can't find any data for the "y" measurment. Anyone know this one?

Aaah, crap! Sorry about that!!!

Dimension "Y": 1976mm (77 25/32 in.)
Measured between outer corner of roll bar and outer edge of lower hole for hinge.

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