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Cevan
post Jan 15 2007, 04:01 PM
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So I picked this thing up for $150:

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I've spent the last 3 weeks getting it running ( it does ). Then I stripped most of the parts off the car. Here's what I've got:

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post Jan 15 2007, 04:06 PM
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More rust (what would a 914 be without rust):

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Any suggestions for removing the jack support and tube? Do I need to cut more of the rear fender off and some of the door jamb?
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OK, this is scary. Can you say swiss cheese?
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post Jan 15 2007, 04:10 PM
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you are very spoiled to have such a nice little rusted car for a win the lottery pirce! We would have all of that welding done in a week.
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post Jan 15 2007, 04:46 PM
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Another one saved. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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post Jan 16 2007, 08:41 AM
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Too many people would not have the time/patience/sickness to try to save this car! Good on ya for trying!
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post Jan 22 2007, 07:24 AM
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Well, I'm still picking away at this thing. I ended up removing the windshield and rear glass. Someone on this forum had posted a picture of a tool they made to remove the windshield trim so I made one and it worked very well.

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I removed some rust,

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made a patch,

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and tried my hand at welding.

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It came out ok, not bad for a neophyte.
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post Jan 22 2007, 03:13 PM
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Just curious about all of this.

What year is the 914 and which engine?
How difficult was it to get it to crank?
Was it still FI or now carbed? Did you drive it at all after cranking? How far?
Are you doing this only to develop and polish your skills?
Do you plan to license and drive this 914 when you get the metal patched?
Are you skilled in any of the trades of body works or welding before attempting this?
Why not purchase metal floor parts needed or is this just something to do in spare time?

This is interesting. Good luck.
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post Jan 22 2007, 05:06 PM
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Nice pics. Keep em coming. I wanna watch this build start to finish (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)
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post Jan 22 2007, 05:47 PM
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It's a '74, 1.8 fuel injected. The car appears to have had no modifications performed on it (no door speakers, stock radio, motor, etc). The engine cranked right up once I put a battery in it. EJM helped me get it running. The dual relay was shot and the injectors were clogged but once the relay was replaced (and new plugs, points, and wires) I got it running and actually drove it up and down my driveway (which is 1/4 mile long).

I didn't purchase floor parts b/c only two small parts of the floor are rusted. I have purchased the inner rocker panel. I'll have to fabricate the piece behind that. I have two good, rust free fenders.

My welding and metal working skills are developing, but I'm learning. I'm not sure how much body work I'll do and how much a bodyshop will do. I don't plan on painting it myself.

I'm doing this so that I'll have a 914 to drive (not an everyday driver but to drive on nice days, maybe to work).

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Just curious about all of this.

What year is the 914 and which engine?
How difficult was it to get it to crank?
Was it still FI or now carbed? Did you drive it at all after cranking? How far?
Are you doing this only to develop and polish your skills?
Do you plan to license and drive this 914 when you get the metal patched?
Are you skilled in any of the trades of body works or welding before attempting this?
Why not purchase metal floor parts needed or is this just something to do in spare time?

This is interesting. Good luck.
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:39 PM
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Fantastic reply.Answered all I asked. Not many do that. Thanks.
If you run into a tangle, keep this link handy (next line down) bookmarked:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=16748&st=0

It's 32 pages of tech and illustration photos others on here have done.
It's some of what you are/will be doing and it's right here on 914world.
Good luck.
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post Jan 22 2007, 07:44 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) nice progress Chris... keep the pics coming
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post Jan 23 2007, 07:51 PM
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Well, my attempts at welding have proved futile. I can't get these stupid spot welds to work. And if I can't weld, then I can't fix this rust bucket, so I guess this is now a parts car. Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

The motor runs and the tranny works. Any takers??
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post Jan 23 2007, 08:30 PM
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Don't give up!!!

You will learn.

Someone can show you.

What kind of welder do you have?
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post Jan 23 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Cevan @ Jan 23 2007, 08:51 PM) *

Well, my attempts at welding have proved futile. I can't get these stupid spot welds to work. And if I can't weld, then I can't fix this rust bucket, so I guess this is now a parts car. Oh well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

The motor runs and the tranny works. Any takers??



Back up the bus.
Finish it.
I am happy to come over there and show you how..
Feb , first weekend saturday morning.
Ed, Myself, and William Harris will come out and get you motivated.
I promise to drive my car, no matter how much crap is on the road.

Rich
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post Jan 23 2007, 10:18 PM
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ack up the bus.
Finish it.
I am happy to come over there and show you how..
Feb , first weekend saturday morning.
Ed, Myself, and William Harris will come out and get you motivated.
I promise to drive my car, no matter how much crap is on the road.

Rich


I love this place.

Cevan: You'll be able to do it. I learned how to weld mostly from reading past posts. The learning process can be frustrating, but it's necessary and in the end very gratifying. I myself was having a hell of a time until somebody pointed out that I had the wrong tip on my welder! (I was using a tip for flux-core instead of a tip for MIG). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Just keep at it and don't feel like you have to finish it all in a couple of weekends. :-)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) To you Rich for offering to help. Keep us updated!
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post Jan 23 2007, 11:04 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) B-3 is my setting for MIG with my miller 175 (120 volt job) I BUTT weld all of it, trace the piece shape from the bottom, prop it in there and just weld spots 1" apart....keep going till its all done SPOT, SPOT SPOT SPOT worked great and only burned through a few times.......

TO give you and idea I went through 3 2lb spools doing my car (various holes drilled and other as well as full cage etc etc etc
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post Jan 23 2007, 11:43 PM
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You can do it.
We can help.

Give us more info and we'll get your welder working right. Your patch looks great!
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post Jan 24 2007, 05:42 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jan 23 2007, 10:02 PM) *

Back up the bus.
Finish it.
I am happy to come over there and show you how..
Feb , first weekend saturday morning.
Ed, Myself, and William Harris will come out and get you motivated.
I promise to drive my car, no matter how much crap is on the road.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) your prep work and patch looks great.. welding is easy once you get the hang of it ... I can stop by and see what the problem is... if the welder your using isn't up to it I'll bring mine over...
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post Jan 24 2007, 06:53 AM
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I appreciate the kind words but the patch is out b/c 1/2 the welds weren't really welds. It didn't take much to rip it out with pliers.

If I could just use some kind of epoxy, I'd be all set. The welder I'm borrowing a Solar. It has variable power and wire speed.

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post Jan 24 2007, 07:32 AM
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Don't give up! I am going through the same repair work, I'm learning how to weld as well. Here is my progress thread:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...mp;#entry850200

Only catch is that I spent 1k for my parts car, so you are already ahead! We can definitely help you get that car back on the road, keep asking questions. Does the welder you are using use shielding gas? Or are you using flux core wire? I highly suggest using shielding gas if you can. Also, is the welder infinitely variable with respect to power and wire speed? Either way, practice on some scrap, adjust the wire speed such that it isn't coming out so fast that you need to move very quickly to avoid pileup, and then adjust the power such that you are just starting to blow holes in the scrap. Then, back it off a little bit. I've had decent success using this method.

-Chris
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