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spunone
post Jan 18 2007, 09:00 AM
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Mounted the cooler in the front trunk now should I vent out the floor or to the side wheel wells? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jan 18 2007, 09:42 AM
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Really depends on how many holes you want to cut.

My personal preference, from an airflow standpoint, would be to vent underneath the car. Assuming you have an adequate air dam in place, the low pressure area behind it would have more of a tendency to pull air thru the cooler than trying to vent out thru a spinning disc (which creates an air-flow dam of sorts in itself).

I would also shroud the back side of the cooler.

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post Jan 18 2007, 10:16 AM
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theoretically the best place is probably the top or the hood...

But, barring that.. I would agree, out the bottom.
I think you will benefit from the vacuum under there, versus the rock slinging, wind turbine effect of the wheel well.

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post Jan 18 2007, 10:29 AM
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Thanks Guys after what ya said venting out the bottom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Now I gotta figure out if I just drill some holes or cut out a section and reweld in a louvered piece ? Thanks again
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post Jan 18 2007, 10:42 AM
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Reweld in a louvered piece . . . it shoudl work, and I've never seen a non-hood vented louvered duct for an oil cooler or radiator.
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post Jan 18 2007, 11:13 AM
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I decided on wheel well outlets. It seems to work very well, I haven't even needed the supplimental fans and this is the only cooler for my engine, not just an additional cooler.

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post Jan 18 2007, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(spunone @ Jan 18 2007, 07:00 AM) *

Mounted the cooler in the front trunk now should I vent out the floor or to the side wheel wells? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


neiter ...

warning, MAJOR IMHO ahead:

- both are bad solutions. one adds lots of warm air under then car, which will create additional lift, the other adds a lot of drag as you're dumping a lot of warm air into the wheel wells.

personally, IMHO, *i* think the only correct way to vent a front oil cooler is upwards through the hood.
it'll give you a nice, unobstructed flow and will create additional downforce at higher speeds ...

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post Jan 18 2007, 01:13 PM
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not to mention a nice hot breeze in your face...

Now I have a question.

Is there an oil cooler that is one long tube, surrounded by aluminum fins, but overall nothing more than maybe 1-2 inches in total height?

It seems to me that if you run the feed up on long, inot a tube like device...and then run the return down the other long...
You might have the same surface area between all three runs???

Just curious, cause I would love a decent oil cooler, but not in the mood to cut up the bumper/valance to get it.
Like this
http://www.tex-fin.com/html/aircooled.htm#embedded
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post Jan 18 2007, 01:37 PM
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The more I looked at "finned tubing" and "finned tubed oil coolers" the more I know that this is possible.

Take a 1/2 inch tube horizontal finned tube (similar to the tube that is in the compact oil coolers) yet stretch the tube accross the entire width of the car.
You could add vertical finned tubes behind the rocker cover and use those to bring the oil forward and back to the engine.
Then add a grill to just the valance.
There could
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post Jan 18 2007, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jan 18 2007, 11:13 AM) *

not to mention a nice hot breeze in your face...


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) yeah, right ....

i'm sure you would *never* drive one of those either then, because of all the hot air coming up the hood when you have the windows down ...
right?


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post Jan 18 2007, 01:44 PM
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Who would drive a Ford? Is it aircooled? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)



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post Jan 18 2007, 01:45 PM
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I wouldnt say never...

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post Jan 18 2007, 01:53 PM
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Who would drive a Ford? Is it aircooled? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)


having grown up in germany without the feud over which amurican car company is better than the other, i can honestly say that the new Ford GT is one of the sexiest new cars out there ...

that's my very personal opinion, of course, but i would buy and drive one in a heartbeat, if i had the cash ...
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post Jan 18 2007, 06:25 PM
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I tend to agree with andy on venting out the top of the hood.
venting air under the car tends to go against some pretty basic performance ideas.
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post Jan 18 2007, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(morph @ Jan 18 2007, 04:25 PM) *

I tend to agree with andy on venting out the top of the hood.
venting air under the car tends to go against some pretty basic performance ideas.
james


I agree (in concept) as well ......However, unless you are going to be full race, I think it really doesn't matter. For a street car, you could dump it anywhere without too much concern.
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post Jan 18 2007, 07:46 PM
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post Jan 18 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 18 2007, 11:53 AM) *

QUOTE(McMark @ Jan 18 2007, 11:44 AM) *

Who would drive a Ford? Is it aircooled? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)


having grown up in germany without the feud over which amurican car company is better than the other, i can honestly say that the new Ford GT is one of the sexiest new cars out there ...

that's my very personal opinion, of course, but i would buy and drive one in a heartbeat, if i had the cash ...
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Bad a_ _ car.

As far as the cooler what is the car used for? If its a street car with 3-4 AX per year. Try hiding the wholes like my pic. I have a 3.2 in a real six I wonted and area that would be very easy on the car and easy on the eye. I drive very hard and up hills whenever the car goes out. I have never seen temps over 205. Just MHO and I live in a hot climate.


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post Jan 18 2007, 07:54 PM
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here are the holes that it breaths thru....incoming air, comes thru the front bulk head where the rubber grommets are removed.


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post Jan 18 2007, 07:56 PM
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out the bottom
15 1.5" holes


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post Jan 18 2007, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Jan 18 2007, 05:46 PM) *

out the bottom


Very nice. Where are you getting the air from? You have a 4 right?
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