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> PLEASE Help me find some Lug Bolts, For these Western Wheels I have had for two years
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post Aug 19 2007, 01:06 AM
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Doggon Westerns! I bought these on the Pelican Parts BBS years ago and have never been able to find lug bolts that will fit. They are the strange flat faced reciever that apparently used a washer. I dont want to convert to lugs and nuts. Doesd anyone know of a source out there for the bolts I would need to fit these Western wheels?
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post Aug 19 2007, 05:57 AM
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I purchased a set of bolts for 2L Fuch replicas at my local FLAPS (A&A Automotive, owned by drag racer Joe Amato). They had a catalog of US and metric lugs and bolts of varying styles. Ordered through them; $50 for 20 with a nice shiny (not chromed) finish.

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post Aug 19 2007, 06:34 PM
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I'm not coming up with A&A Automitive web-page presence very easily (I'll keep pokin')...
Anybody else got ideas?
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post Aug 19 2007, 07:29 PM
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Have you posted a wanted ad at some of the VW places... like www.thesamba.com ?
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post Aug 19 2007, 07:42 PM
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Wish I could help, but please post the source if you find one...I could use a set also!
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post Aug 19 2007, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(SGB @ Aug 19 2007, 12:06 AM) *

Doggon Westerns! I bought these on the Pelican Parts BBS years ago and have never been able to find lug bolts that will fit. They are the strange flat faced reciever that apparently used a washer. Thanks for any help!


i have some pictures that may help out. they also require thick washers. i have these wheels and would also like to find a source for new.
hope this helps!

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Whoa-
I've never even seen one. Thanks for the pictures. I guess you have the dimensions. We know the thead pitch. Hmmm. Wonder if I could have some made?
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post Aug 19 2007, 09:31 PM
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Whoa-
I've never even seen one. Thanks for the pictures. I guess you have the dimensions. We know the thead pitch. Hmmm. Wonder if I could have some made?


good idea, seems all westerns (other models also by western) use them. i've got another set that takes that style too

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Dr Evil? Are you interested? Craig? Perry? Who has connections in China? Truely, it probably isn't difficult, but we may get 1000 or none. At least that is one approach. I'm gonna change my searching to "custom bolt machining" or something. That is probably a more reasonable way to get 48 or 64 made. Gotta figure out the spec for the bolt strenght too.
Of course, any one out there with experience that might want to help...
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post Aug 19 2007, 09:53 PM
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Have you tried searching here?

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Enkei's also use that type of bolts.

I need one for the V8 car and looked everywhere for one with no luck. Someone on here sent me a couple (thanks again).

The "washer" part is actually part of the bolt head and isn't a seperate piece.


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post Aug 19 2007, 10:09 PM
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You might try contacting Enkie and asking if they have any....


Location: 2900 West Inwood Drive Columbus, Indiana 47201 U.S.A.
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post Aug 20 2007, 07:45 AM
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I may be interested in a set. What about length and hole diameter? Are they standard?
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post Aug 20 2007, 08:08 AM
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Be careful when you're tighting them down thay are soft cheap castings. You can break them off. I broke several when my car had the same Western Wheels.
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post Aug 20 2007, 08:31 AM
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MiniLite (the Real Deal, Not the imitations) uses the same bolt with washer setup, and the washer is a separate piece.

Just Google MiniLite and you should be able to order the lug bolts from their site......
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post Aug 20 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(73Phoenix20 @ Aug 20 2007, 10:31 AM) *

MiniLite (the Real Deal, Not the imitations) uses the same bolt with washer setup, and the washer is a separate piece.

Just Google MiniLite and you should be able to order the lug bolts from their site......



I went down this road last year with Minilite. They no longer make them or have the tooling to make them. All new Minilites use counter sunk bolts. I ended up having the bolt holes machined to accept a modern taper bolt. Only cost $75 to have the work done.
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post Aug 20 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(GWN7 @ Aug 19 2007, 09:03 PM) *

Enkei's also use that type of bolts.

I need one for the V8 car and looked everywhere for one with no luck. Someone on here sent me a couple (thanks again).

The "washer" part is actually part of the bolt head and isn't a seperate piece.


the washers are kinda pressed on, at least on mine. some like the one in my posted picture came off.

by the way look at your picture of tires. did i send you a couple bolts awhile back?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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post Aug 20 2007, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(rhcb914 @ Aug 20 2007, 10:01 AM) *

I went down this road last year with Minilite. They no longer make them or have the tooling to make them. All new Minilites use counter sunk bolts. I ended up having the bolt holes machined to accept a modern taper bolt. Only cost $75 to have the work done.


Dudes! You're bummin, just like I was last year. My American Racing wheels had locking lug bolts that were ruined, so I needed 4 replacement lug bolts. Searched here and everywhere for a MONTH and NOTHING! Mine were slightly different than Westerns.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=60890&hl=

Here's my advice:
1) Measure and post ALL details of lug bolts needed = "washer" OD, thickness; flange OD, length; thread pitch, length; total length, etc
2) Search google for "Mag seat" lug bolts. Gorrilla makes some, EMPI, and others
3) See above....I eventually had my alloy wheels drilled to accept cone seat lugs. There was about 3/4" meat of alloy at the hole to work with, and a standard 60 deg countersink bit did the trick.

Using cone or ball seat lug bolts in the flat mag seat holes will eventually grind down the hole resulting in cracked holes/rims. This happened recently on a track/AX 914 in NorCal that used ball seat lugs on steel rims.

Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
p.s. I check mine for cracks every month just to be safe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Aug 20 2007, 07:37 PM
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The bolt that is in the picture with the calipers is available at J.C. Whitney or Pep Boys. Bought a set for my Jensen Healey with aftermarket western wheels there last week.
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