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Earl Scheib paint jobs, anyone recent experiences |
brp986s |
Jan 24 2008, 04:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 27-September 07 From: los angeles Member No.: 8,167 |
My boss wants to bring his DD Miata to Earl Scheib for paint. Years ago I saw a 914 painted there. The paint was coming off in sheets and you could see distinct sanding swirls under remaining paint. But, they're still in business - maybe they've improved. Anyone with experiences out there?
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jasons |
Jan 24 2008, 04:28 PM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
No personal experience but, I'm sure you get what you pay for.
If you took a fully stripped and prepped car in there, it may come out OK. But if its fully prepped, you could paint it in your driveway and get good results. Its a question of economics, how much better does your(his) car have to look for you(him) to be happy about it? If it looks like total Ass now, maybe a quick Earl Scheib job would make him happy enough. If its got door dings, rust, body issues. Chances are it will still have door dings, rust, and body issues. They will just all have fresh paint on them. Basically, how good is good enough? |
Dr. Roger |
Jan 24 2008, 04:50 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
yep, a buddy just had his chevy truck touched up there as well as a rear quarter repainted. i was not impressed.
some spots shiny and some orange peeled. Prep was sub standard as witnessed by the obvious irregular reflections. i think it's a secret painters apprenticeship program. painting 101. =) |
CMONNETT |
Jan 24 2008, 05:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 27-September 07 From: Cibolo, TX Member No.: 8,162 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Here in San Antonio, years ago, they advertised they would paint any car for 100 bucks with a one day turn around. They would even paint the lights and any trim for you also, ie overspray. Basically you get what you pay for. If you're trying to sell the car why not.
Chris |
TROJANMAN |
Jan 24 2008, 05:31 PM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
Some of those shops really aren't that bad. Sometimes you get more than you pay for. There is one shop in Colorado that actually does pretty good work. But they are a franchise, so you mileage my vary from shop to shop. It all has to do with the individual who is doing the work, not the name of the store. Some expensive shops do shotty work too.
Oh, and I have had a car painted at one (color change too), and was quite pleased with the results. I would just recommend paying for better paint. |
Katmanken |
Jan 24 2008, 07:03 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
A friend had a few cars done....
His advice? You prep it, you clean it, you smooth it, and they will do a sorta ok job.... You should always choose white as the $99 paints are low quality and oxidize quickly... You can opt for better paint and that is money well spent.... Ken |
ConeDodger |
Jan 24 2008, 07:12 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,622 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Earl Scheib does not do prep unless you pay them extra to do it... Literaly at the advertised price, they mask and paint. Meaning if you left your coffee cup on the rear deck lid, it gets painted. So if you can do really good prep, it is a good deal. If not. write a check to a full service body shop.
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shelby/914 |
Jan 24 2008, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 804 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Foxfield, Co Member No.: 4,655 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
MAACO does a lot better job, especially if you do some prep work first. Of course they charge more.
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chris914 |
Jan 24 2008, 08:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 24-July 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 2,393 Region Association: Southern California |
MAACO does a lot better job, especially if you do some prep work first. Of course they charge more. I had my VW Thing painted at Maaco 10 years ago. The car still looks good but it lives indoors. I took all the hardware off myself, paid for extra prep work, upgraded the primer and paint, and had them fill the big dents (keep the other ones to add character. It cost somewhere between $500 - $600.I was very happy with it. http://www.cassidy-online.com/thing73/pictures/pictures.html I had a 67 Mustang painted at Earls when I was in college, it sucked! |
Heeltoe914 |
Jan 24 2008, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,135 Joined: 31-January 06 From: Tujunga Calif, Member No.: 5,506 |
+2 on the Macco paint job for a DD a so so paint our better try them, I was able to have the guy write down on the contract no orange peel or runs and i got a real nice paint job. I removed the trim bumper.
not a show car but nice for a DD |
Elliot Cannon |
Jan 24 2008, 10:19 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
Sheib used to do his own commercials back in the 60s. "I'll paint any car, any color for $29.95." Interesting side note. His son went to jail a number of years ago for arms dealing.
Cheers, Elliot |
McMark |
Jan 24 2008, 10:39 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
QUOTE His son went to jail a number of years ago for arms dealing. Didn't they have a "Paint and a Gun" special awhile back. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
sww914 |
Jan 24 2008, 10:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 4-June 06 Member No.: 6,146 Region Association: None |
Earl Scheib was a chemist. He invented synthetic enamel, it dried the same day and it was (relatively) shiny as sprayed without buffing. These were new qualities in paint. Before that, lacquer dried the same day but it was dull until polished and enamel took a few days to dry, but it was shiny.
It's still a shitty paint job, Maaco's better. |
championgt1 |
Jan 24 2008, 10:43 PM
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Don't embarrass me Filmore! Group: Members Posts: 2,680 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I knew a guy in high school who had his truck painted at Macco. The truck looked better before he had it painted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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effutuo101 |
Jan 25 2008, 08:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
I have had two cars painted at Macco. I did all of the prep work, so any flaws where mine to begin with. Both came out really good for the price. If you want a 10x10 car ( 10mph at 10 feet) this is the cheapest way to go. I don't see any issue with painting a race car at Macco. If you want to show the car. Different story. Time to get out the wallet and pay some $$$$$. I have seen where the factory paint on Chevy's comes off in big sheets. I pealed off the original paint off of one. Took me about 45 minutes to strip the car, skuff the original paint and get ready to put on Primer. 2 hours later, I had the car at Macco getting paint. Pretty funny.
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TeenerTim |
Jan 25 2008, 09:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 22-October 07 From: Norfolk,VA Member No.: 8,253 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
At Earl Scheib's if you don't want it painted remove it. I had a Datsun pickup done in the late '70s. When I picked it up everything, including the grill and trim, had been painted. I think that started the whole monochromatic trend. I was shocked but actually liked the effect.
I took my last teener to Maaco. I did all the prep and body work myself. I removed all of the lights, seals, trim, handles, and anything that I didn't want painted. Like Chris did I got the upgraded paint and primer deal. It turned out pretty well except for the area on the inside of the sail panels next to the rear window. Here's what the car looked like for around $500 in 1997. (IMG:http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2326/2146459255_effb4ac4eb.jpg) The bumbers were fiberglass so they weren't painting over the rubber lips. |
p914 |
Jan 25 2008, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 1,117 Region Association: None |
It's not the shop itself. It's the guy prepping and painting. If the guy is good... he could be in any shop that got lucky enough to find a good craftsman.
Look in more places and ask around about good craftsmen. |
Twise |
Jan 25 2008, 02:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 20-September 06 From: SoCal - Temecula Member No.: 6,881 Region Association: Southern California |
A complete paint job at our shop would cost you 10k +...
Macco, Scheib and others are a good bet if you do not expect too much. I always tell people in your situation to detrim the car your self. Go buy some red scotch brite pads and start scuffing. If the car needs body work get a paintless guy to do any thing minor - they are cheap and quick and capable of all sorts of tricks when disturbing the finish is not an issue. You take it to them like that and your chances are 100 fold better already - you pay for the better paint and primer and you can feasibly get your car done moderately well for 500.00. It is not going to hold a candle to the Glasurit two stage finish on my car, but it cost you 9500.00 less. Basically you should not expect miracles, not for 500.00... |
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