 sloppy shifting, all of a sudden cant find first! |
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| mattp |
 Jul 6 2009, 11:32 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252  |
Had kids playing in car (not running) now I cant find first! I have to push super hard to the left to find first(if I can) . The rest of the gears are hard to find also, any ideas?
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| 914Sixer |
Jul 6 2009, 11:42 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,909 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Check shifter bushing at the firewall and the rear bushing. You will probably find one or both are shot.
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| Rand |
Jul 6 2009, 11:42 AM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
It would be nice if it was as simple as a loose cone screw.
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| Zundfolge |
Jul 6 2009, 12:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 12-August 07 From: Colorado Springs Member No.: 7,994 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(Rand @ Jul 6 2009, 10:42 AM)  It would be nice if it was as simple as a loose cone screw. Yes it would be. Since its a problem that just appeared one day, that would be my first guess. Little cone shaped bolt where the linkage hooks to the tranny ... that's the first place I'd look. Mine gets loose about once every year or so. |
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| mattp |
Jul 6 2009, 12:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
where's the cone screw? Is it where the shift rod connects at the firewall or at the transmission?
how can I tell if its the firewall bushing? thanks |
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| Kirmizi |
Jul 6 2009, 01:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
I'd say start off at the shift rod clamp below your shifter.
Is it only first gear, or first and reverse (since they're both far left)? If that clamp was loose, and the rod orientation has changed, all of your gears will have "moved". Mike |
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| ellisor3 |
Jul 6 2009, 01:24 PM
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HPWhore Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fleming Island, Florida Member No.: 9,683 Region Association: South East States  |
I went through the same problem this past weekend, turned out the bushing at the rear of the linkage under the dust cover had popped out of the hole. I popped it back in an so far problem solved. Everytime I tried to go into first or Rev. it would slide to neutral.
Good luck |
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| jt914-6 |
Jul 6 2009, 01:29 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
I think the kid that was driving hit first when he was speed shifting from fourth to fifth............ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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| pcar916 |
Jul 6 2009, 01:31 PM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(mattp @ Jul 6 2009, 10:57 AM) where's the cone screw? Is it where the shift rod connects at the firewall or at the transmission? how can I tell if its the firewall bushing? thanks Before taking anything apart, take off all the boots and inspect everything for obvious problems... Then The firewall bushing is in the firewall bulkhead and the shift rod goes through it. If it's gone the rod has to be removed to replace. There is another bushing in the side-shift housing that the rod also goes through. There are two "cone-screws" One is behind the firewall (in the engine compartment) at the swivel joint. Pull the boot back from the bulkhead and you'll see it. It's an allen set-screw in the aluminum collar, and it goes into one single hole in the shift rod. This collar has two bushings in it that center a rod. It's part of the joint The other cone screw is inside the side shifter housing on the transaxle. You'll have to remove the dust cover and the cone-screw will be attaching the actuator to the shift-rod inside the housing. If I had one that backed out, I'd use blue locktight (or the equivalent) rather than "waller-out" the hole in the shift rod over time as it loosens. A little heat with a heat gun and it'll let go when you do need to change the bushings... and eventually you will. If you do this next step, mark (with a marker-pen) the placement of your current collar before you loosen and remove it. Inside the car... There is another bushing in the shifter itself. It's a plastic donut that centers the shifter as it moves. If it's disintegrated and finally fell out, you will have vagueness and perhaps the symptoms you described. You don't have to get under the car to check that out, but you will have to adjust the shifter from scratch if you take the shifter out to inspect. In case you've not done this before, there are springs under compression so be careful. There is a fair amount of detail I've left out here. Do a little reading on this forum and the manual before tackling the shifter. Good luck |
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| orange914 |
Jul 6 2009, 05:45 PM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(jt914-6 @ Jul 6 2009, 11:29 AM) I think the kid that was driving hit first when he was speed shifting from fourth to fifth............ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) one of them stuck under the clutch pedal? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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| mattp |
Jul 7 2009, 10:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 257 Joined: 22-November 06 From: westchester NY Member No.: 7,252 |
solved it! it was cone screw at back of car, but I did notice I have NO firewall bushing! Reset screw shifts fine, now I gotta get the bushing and see how much better it is! thanks everyone!!
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| Bartlett 914 |
Jul 7 2009, 04:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(mattp @ Jul 7 2009, 11:03 AM) solved it! it was cone screw at back of car, but I did notice I have NO firewall bushing! Reset screw shifts fine, now I gotta get the bushing and see how much better it is! thanks everyone!! The cone screw has a plastic ball in the threaded portion that helps prevent the screw from backing out. The normal recommendation is to install a new screw. |
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