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mskala
post Mar 8 2004, 04:43 PM
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Getting tired of only using 1 inch of rubber on the tires.
Thought this way would be better than doing low-rider
hops till the spindles bent 2 degrees (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)

Now I'm in modified for autocross, but at least my tub
is still virgin. Before it was about 3/4 degree, will find
out what I can get soon.


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J P Stein
post Mar 8 2004, 06:14 PM
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With the car set to 4.75 inches, ground to doughnuts, and them Tarett mounts pushed in like yours, I got -2.0 deg.

"cash hammer"....heh, heh, I like it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 8 2004, 06:20 PM
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post Mar 8 2004, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Mar 8 2004, 07:14 PM)
With the car set to 4.75 inches, ground to doughnuts

Is that with 205/50 or equivalent diameter? Will aim for that level if reasonable
for the street. I'm not sure what it is right now.
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post Mar 8 2004, 06:35 PM
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Oh yeah, also the stock (boge?) shock threads are not long enough to use
the nylock nut that came with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spank.gif)
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Mark II, even for a wannabe racer like me, you get used to shoveling cash into a black hole.

This winters projects cost:

shocks revalved 280
springs & adjusters 180
Mueller brgs 400
wheels 335
Misc stuff 160
muffler 320
seat 100
tiars....900

I don't wanna add it up.

Mark I....it's your thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

225X45X15s....dia bout 22.5-23.0.

BTW, I ground the big hole and mounting holes for the bolts to get all the caster I could. With the stock holes, I could get only a bit over 5 deg....I want 6 or better. Want a pic?
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post Mar 8 2004, 06:46 PM
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LOL, first time I read this I thought it said Muffler brgs 400. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
damn, it sucks to not be 25 still. Someone come up with a way to make me 10 years younger and I'll give you my white car! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Mar 8 2004, 06:48 PM
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That's as low as I dare go.....2 inches of travel left in the shocks(21 mm T bars)....still a silght downward angle on the A arms ( ball joint is lower)....put the rack spacer kit in.....it's on, if not over, the edge.
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post Mar 9 2004, 12:02 AM
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My car is way lower than that; (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Mar 9 2004, 01:58 AM
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Come to our AXs and you'll rip the bottom out on a reef, Chris. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

We actually have to build the courses around the worst spots.....and there are plenty of bad ones left.
That's the Pro Pits.....the South pits are worser. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Mar 9 2004, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Mar 8 2004, 11:58 PM)

That's the Pro Pits.....the South pits are worser. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[QUOTE]The only thing worse than driving in those pits is laying in one of the rut-mud-puddles trying to straighen out a suspension link that just saw the lawn!!!!
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post Mar 9 2004, 12:57 PM
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JP,

Why 6 deg caster?
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post Mar 9 2004, 01:01 PM
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I was first out in a rainy SCCA AX in the South pits.
There was virgin lake (the fish still tasted like chicken (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) just after the finish line. When I hit that thing walls of water bout 5 feet high went
at least 3 directions...I couldn't see beyond it....but the car stayed fairly dry.....wish I had a pic of that.
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post Mar 9 2004, 01:08 PM
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Why 6 JP ?? Like Howard asked ??

6 time PCA Parade autoX winner says no more than 5.5 is needed. Nothing gained past that with our struts/control arms.


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post Mar 9 2004, 01:14 PM
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I like to run mine down at 1.5 or 2. Little bit less directional stabiltity but vastly more feel.
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post Mar 9 2004, 01:18 PM
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I run the autoX cars at 5.0/5.5 but the track cars only get 2/3. Most people dont know the difference.


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post Mar 9 2004, 01:23 PM
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Hey B,

get the voice mail about the /6 paperwork? (ex-mueller's9146)

Back to the post.....


does anyone go thru the trouble of changing the settings back and forth between street, ax and track???

or is there a decent setting for all the above??
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post Mar 9 2004, 01:30 PM
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The stock setting is 6 +/- 30 min.....the most I could get is 5.0.

With the wide front tiars I've gotten into a scrub radius problem. Ever drive a car with a locked rear end?....that's what it feels like...a walking speed push at a lot of steering lock.....it shows up in low speed corners. This may or not help.

I don't have a 6 time national champ looking over my shoulder.

Some 9eleben guys are running as much as 7 deg.

I want to try it.

Izat' gud?(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 9 2004, 01:34 PM
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Hell yeah.. try it. It is the only way to learn. All of this is what you want YOUR car to feel like for YOU.

I'm concerned about your inability to get more than 5.0....HUM

911's have a huge f-ing weight hanging off their backs...LOL


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post Mar 9 2004, 01:35 PM
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I havent turned my phone on today and probably wont (Mueller).. call the friggin shop (DUH)


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