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> What constitutes "restoration"?, Looks like the PCR's will put me in resto class next year
Pat Garvey
post Dec 12 2007, 08:59 PM
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I would hardly call my '72 914 "restored".

Yes, most of the exterior panels were repainted - in 1979!

But, the PCR gurus tell me it's "restored". One says if it was repainted anywhere, it's restored. Another says "if 30% of the panels were repainted, it's restored". I just love this degree of decisiveness!

So, here's what was repainted - all exterior panels, except the engine lid (which was used to match the degree of orange peel). No, the engine bay was not painted, nor the undersides of the lids, nor any of the belly parts or trunks. Nor were the door jambs. The repaint was to original specs by a Mercedes shop in Cincinnati. In '79 they wanted no part of the car, but owed a favor to a buddy of mine. Did a wonderful job!

Beyond that, I've maintained the rest of the finishes of the car. Yep, I've replaced a bunch of parts through the years that needed it - I still call this maintenance. I've always used factory parts to maintain the car. I have a stockpile of factory parts to use as the years go buy, but they are maintenance parts.

So, instead of a black and white poll - tell me your thoughts on whether this car is resored or preserved. It'll help me make a decision in January.

All questions are considered fair, and will be answered. All comments are considered fair - I will accept all (except tire questions/comments).

Let's hear it!
Pat

ps: If you want pics, fine.
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dw914er
post Mar 12 2008, 02:25 PM
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at the classic car dealership, we usually thought that unless it was major amounts of work, the car was original.

i mean, paint jobs lasting over 35 years is pretty ridiculous.
i know my car, in the silver metallic, would never had lasted that long (silver fades way too fast to last that long) so the car has been painted 3 times now.

but other than an engine rebuild, and new tyres (i do have the original spare tyre though, but i think thats probably more bad than good), etc, it has never had a full overhaul, never been repainted except for the exterior, original interior, so i would not call it restored


i think there is a fine line between restored and unrestored. if a paint job makes your car restored, then you will be competing with cars that have been completely redone, every bolt cleaned, and in your state of originalness, it is hard to compete

(i know my cant, and it is still pretty 'clean' but not as clean as a good restoration)

i think paint job, or an engine rebuild, is just something called maintainence.


but if it 'restored' then it just means that you kept your car clean, and still used it.

a car is supposed to be driven after all



(but i have never competed in that, so idk how i would do, and my monza set up would probably not go over well, or the 80's radio)
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Pat Garvey   What constitutes "restoration"?   Dec 12 2007, 08:59 PM
Beamer13   To me, I would consider this preserved. You have ...   Dec 12 2007, 09:14 PM
Thomas J Bliznik   To me, I would consider this preserved. You have...   Dec 13 2007, 01:08 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   A restoration implies a degree of degradation and ...   Dec 12 2007, 10:25 PM
davep   I'd have to agree that it is preserved and not...   Dec 13 2007, 11:01 AM
Scott Schroeder   It is absolutely restored. Pat, you have stated o...   Dec 13 2007, 12:28 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   It seems there are different interpretations of wh...   Dec 13 2007, 02:24 PM
Racer   Sounds restored to me. Like Jeff says, a car is on...   Dec 13 2007, 03:17 PM
Pat Garvey   Hmmm... I can understand both points of view here...   Dec 13 2007, 09:27 PM
tod914   Beautiful car Pat, I would considered it restored ...   Dec 17 2007, 10:57 PM
Pat Garvey   Beautiful car Pat, I would considered it restored...   Dec 20 2007, 09:08 PM
Jasfsmith   Back to the topic at hand - I'm OK with ...   Dec 21 2007, 07:46 PM
Pat Garvey   Back to the topic at hand - I'm OK with ...   Dec 21 2007, 07:58 PM
Matt Meyer   Just for a point of reference- I saw an interview...   Dec 21 2007, 11:10 AM
Johny Blackstain   Forgive my absense everyone, I've been out on ...   Mar 12 2008, 12:36 PM
dw914er   at the classic car dealership, we usually thought ...   Mar 12 2008, 02:25 PM
Johny Blackstain   i think paint job, or an engine rebuild, is just ...   Mar 12 2008, 03:34 PM
Pat Garvey   i think paint job, or an engine rebuild, is just...   Mar 12 2008, 06:56 PM
Johny Blackstain   NO Parade this year! Dammitt! Sorry t...   Mar 12 2008, 07:45 PM
dw914er   :agree: it is hard to keep a car untouched for 3...   Mar 12 2008, 05:07 PM
sendjonathanmail   I would consider a restoration to be a complete re...   Mar 12 2008, 05:56 PM
horizontally-opposed   Hey Pat! To me your car is *not* restored, b...   Apr 19 2008, 04:53 PM
Pat Garvey   Hey Pat! To me your car is *not* restored, ...   Apr 19 2008, 09:20 PM


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