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> valve train pushrod geometry setting, weird question... maybe not
orange914
post Mar 18 2008, 05:23 PM
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following the step by step valve geometry i've got a few possible issues? when no shims used and exhaust and intake geometry is set the swivel feet are almost bottomed out (almost no adjustment left). so next it was shimmed with .025, the geo/swivel tightness got better (not so close to bottoming against swivel) when shimmed with .040 shims i have more space to adjust up left before swivel contacts rocker (3/4 to 1 turn).

bottom line it seems to work out better with .040 shims. with no shims it has wider range of measurements between each valve -and- closer swivel foot to rocker arms.

1] is .040 shim o.k.?

2] if o.k. is 3/4 to 1 turn until swivel foot hits the bottom of the (modified) rocker acceptable? yes they are o.e.m. swivels from a 2.7

3] if not o.k. can i remove .030 or ? more from rocker arm

4] if none of the above is good what am i needing to do to correct this?

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post Mar 20 2008, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Mar 20 2008, 01:44 PM) *

Why would it be bad to deck the arm a little more instead of adding more shim? Is shimming just easier then decking? I can't see how a .070 deck would provide less structure then a .060 deck.

But I am a noob, and am watching this thread like a hawk (cause I am going to need to do it soon).

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you can deck the rocker a bit and add more shim if it's necassary.

In this case, we just wanted to be sure 3/4 of a turn was enough clearance, and it looks like it is.
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post Mar 20 2008, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 20 2008, 01:42 PM) *

if i understand jake correctly, he was saying 3/4 of 1 mm is PLENTY because if the valve ever stretches that much, it'll snapp off long before you bottom out your adjustment ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) 10/4... thats what i pulled from jakes post also, but need to confirm... is 3/8 to 1/2 turn (no shims) aceptable (plenty) and perferred???... jake??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

QUOTE(toon1 @ Mar 20 2008, 01:57 PM) *

In this case, we just wanted to be sure 3/4 of a turn was enough clearance, and it looks like it is.


i guess unless we hear negatives on the .040 shims, that this is the prefered setting. even though these heads were L.N. prepared (and beautiful masterpeice at that) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) , i would think that the possibility of the seats recessing over time could be a factor to go .040 shims???

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orange914   valve train pushrod geometry setting   Mar 18 2008, 05:23 PM
Dominic   "3] if not o.k. can i remove .030 or ? more f...   Mar 18 2008, 06:14 PM
Borderline   :agree: , yeah you gotta grind about .060 off the ...   Mar 18 2008, 10:41 PM
toon1   I helped Mike with the geo last sat. The rocke...   Mar 18 2008, 11:57 PM
orange914   I helped Mike with the geo last sat. The rock...   Mar 19 2008, 03:52 PM
DNHunt   I have .045 shims on my 2270 assembled at Jake...   Mar 19 2008, 06:35 AM
toon1   I have .045 shims on my 2270 assembled at Jake...   Mar 19 2008, 11:18 AM
George H.   the quote is from jake were you able to get sat...   Mar 19 2008, 04:01 PM
toon1   the quote is from jake were you able to get sa...   Mar 19 2008, 04:48 PM
Jake Raby   That means you have 3/4 of 1mm of valve adjustme...   Mar 19 2008, 05:58 PM
orange914   That means you have 3/4 of 1mm of valve adjustm...   Mar 19 2008, 11:30 PM
orange914   That means you have 3/4 of 1mm of valve adjust...   Mar 20 2008, 01:17 PM
toon1   That means you have 3/4 of 1mm of valve adjustm...   Mar 19 2008, 09:12 PM
George H.   mike what cam are you using? in the valve train a...   Mar 19 2008, 11:49 PM
toon1   mike what cam are you using? in the valve train ...   Mar 20 2008, 08:33 AM
cuca914   :popcorn: This is good stuff.   Mar 20 2008, 10:08 AM
toon1   [quote name='orange914' post='1010703' date='Mar ...   Mar 20 2008, 02:33 PM
SirAndy   If I understand it right, what Jake is saying, 3/...   Mar 20 2008, 02:42 PM
orange914   if i understand jake correctly, he was saying 3/4...   Mar 20 2008, 06:16 PM
SirAndy   by the way andy i think i should confirm that the...   Mar 21 2008, 10:30 AM
Vacca Rabite   Why would it be bad to deck the arm a little more ...   Mar 20 2008, 02:44 PM
toon1   If I understand it right, what Jake is saying, 3...   Mar 20 2008, 02:54 PM
toon1   Why would it be bad to deck the arm a little more...   Mar 20 2008, 02:57 PM
orange914   if i understand jake correctly, he was saying 3/4...   Mar 20 2008, 06:12 PM
Jake Raby   Run it. Worrying and fighting issues like this wi...   Mar 20 2008, 07:45 PM
toon1   Run it. Worrying and fighting issues like this w...   Mar 20 2008, 09:11 PM
orange914   thanks guys for the direction. much closer :driv...   Mar 21 2008, 03:17 PM


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