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KaptKaos
post Apr 2 2008, 10:40 PM
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I have a few panels (hoods and trunks) that I want to try the $50 roller paint job on. For those that don't know about it, here's a good site with a link to the original thread on the mopar board:

$50 Paint Job

Before anyone gets all pissy with me, please understand that I have 3 kids and a stay at home wife. I need to be a CSOB.

With that out of the way, here is a pic from that guy's website:

(IMG:http://rickwrench.com/images-sounds/rustweb/vairbeforepaint.jpg)

You'll notice the layers of paint on the body of the Corvair.

My hood that I have been working on has a few layers too. I used chemical stripper and got parts down to bare metal, others just wouldn't budge. What's the best way to smooth all of that out? The $50 thread says to paint over it. I did that but it left the contours of the old spots in the new paint on my first try at this.

For what it's worth, I am practicing on a few panels to see if it works and if I like it. Not sure I will ever go this route.

The guy on the site with the corvair makes a good point. If you're not going whole hog on a paint job ($5k plus kind of job) is this any worse than Earl Scheib? And, if I were to go the whole hog on a paint job, I would be stripping the car anyway.

So there it is. I am a noob at painting and appreciate any advice.

Thanks!
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Thack
post Apr 3 2008, 08:29 PM
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Any painter will tell you that the prep work is where the "magic" starts. Fancy paints look great but you can get by on lesser paint. You would think you could just paint over the old paint but the multi-layered "base coat" will show through, especially with lighter colors.
You could get people to donate to you some sand paper becuase that's the prep you'll have to do. Sometimes you can't even primer over old paint because the old paint reacts with the primer. Borrow a dual action sander and a compresser for the tough stuff then learn the fine art of block sanding. You can do it! Good luck!
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post Apr 3 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(Thack @ Apr 3 2008, 06:29 PM) *

Any painter will tell you that the prep work is where the "magic" starts. Fancy paints look great but you can get by on lesser paint. You would think you could just paint over the old paint but the multi-layered "base coat" will show through, especially with lighter colors.
You could get people to donate to you some sand paper becuase that's the prep you'll have to do. Sometimes you can't even primer over old paint because the old paint reacts with the primer. Borrow a dual action sander and a compresser for the tough stuff then learn the fine art of block sanding. You can do it! Good luck!


Ok, a few questions:

1) I have an electric palm sander. It's square and oscillates. Will that get me through the prep or do I need a rotary one?
2) Should I use chemical strippers to go to bare metal or should I use primer?
3) Will primer fill in the peaks and valleys of the paint? Will primer eventually sand smooth?
4) How long of a block sander do I need?

Thanks for the help fellas!
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post Apr 7 2008, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Apr 3 2008, 11:48 PM) *

4) How long of a block sander do I need?



The longboard I have is 16 inches x 2 3/4 inch wide. Bought it at CJ's here in Allentown. Great auto paint shop. The longboard really flattens out areas.

Use contrast coats of sandable primer to find high spots & low spots. When you think you have a panel ready, spray the area with a very light coat of black primer. Then lightly sand with the longboard. High and low spots will jump out at you as well as big scratches and other imperfections. Do as many contrast coats as needed.

To smooth the roundish flares on the back of my 914, I made some flexible longboards out of 1/16 inch thick strips of some type of hardwood. I think it's white oak. I glued the paper to the strip so it's a one shot use.

Good luck with your paint job. As others have said, a paint job is only as good as the preparation.


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post Apr 15 2008, 03:05 PM
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These people have a Delux Paint job for 59 bucks. I have used them Several times and have been very pleased with the product for no more that what it costs...

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com

All you need is a compressor and gun. You can also get these cheap from www.Homier.com

Be Sure to post LOTS of Photos bro....
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KaptKaos   Basic painting questions   Apr 2 2008, 10:40 PM
sww914   At this stage I'd say that you will decrease t...   Apr 3 2008, 01:36 AM
roadster fan   I tried this process on a scrap piece of 16 guage ...   Apr 3 2008, 02:22 AM
davesclassicvws   This method is not new by any means. All cars in t...   Apr 3 2008, 06:46 PM
charliew   There's a chance a good catalyzed primer will ...   Apr 3 2008, 06:49 PM
Thack   Any painter will tell you that the prep work is wh...   Apr 3 2008, 08:29 PM
KaptKaos   Any painter will tell you that the prep work is w...   Apr 3 2008, 09:48 PM
rick 918-S   Any painter will tell you that the prep work is ...   Apr 3 2008, 10:08 PM
Spoke   4) How long of a block sander do I need? The lo...   Apr 7 2008, 08:45 PM
keebler117   These people have a Delux Paint job for 59 bucks. ...   Apr 15 2008, 03:05 PM
KaptKaos   Rick, Been waiting for you to chime in :D The ho...   Apr 3 2008, 10:14 PM
rick 918-S   Rick, Been waiting for you to chime in :D The h...   Apr 3 2008, 10:34 PM
KaptKaos   36 or 40 grit sand paper? Isn't that a little...   Apr 4 2008, 12:30 AM
r_towle   36 or 40 grit sand paper? Isn't that a littl...   Apr 7 2008, 12:52 PM
rick 918-S   Don't worry about it. You won't. Get that ...   Apr 4 2008, 09:20 AM
Thack   Good advice from Rick. I had a small compressor a...   Apr 4 2008, 05:21 PM
zonedoubt   There was some discussion of this technique on The...   Apr 4 2008, 06:42 PM
Todd Enlund   I have a paint question... how can I find a store ...   Apr 4 2008, 06:58 PM
KaptKaos   I have a paint question... how can I find a store...   Apr 5 2008, 01:01 AM
davesclassicvws   I have a paint question... how can I find a store...   Apr 15 2008, 11:09 PM
Gint   Phone book - Auto Body Shop Equipment and Supplies...   Apr 5 2008, 07:51 AM
rick 918-S   As a last resort go to NAPA. Their ever place and ...   Apr 5 2008, 08:34 AM
KaptKaos   So if I wanted to buy a compressor, albeit a small...   Apr 5 2008, 02:37 PM
KaptKaos   So I got some more Jasco stripper and some 60 grit...   Apr 5 2008, 08:35 PM
Thack   Now you need to wet sand it with 400 grit. Use a s...   Apr 5 2008, 10:22 PM
dkos   I've been thinking about doing this roller-pai...   Apr 7 2008, 10:15 AM
Thack   Rolled on paint is better than no paint. Take some...   Apr 7 2008, 12:13 PM
7TPorsh   don't roll it. I did and spent two weeks sandi...   Apr 15 2008, 05:55 PM
rick 918-S   don't roll it. I did and spent two weeks sand...   Apr 15 2008, 06:19 PM
swood   ...again with the rolling... :woohoo: :woohoo: ...   Apr 15 2008, 09:15 PM
KaptKaos   ...again with the rolling... :woohoo: :woohoo: ...   Apr 15 2008, 11:10 PM
DonTraver   This might help, starts about halfway down. http:...   Apr 16 2008, 10:10 AM
keebler117   Also remember that if you do a lot of sanding, Be ...   Apr 16 2008, 11:19 AM
Todd Enlund   I have a paint question... how can I find a stor...   Apr 16 2008, 11:59 AM


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