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| Engman |
Apr 21 2008, 07:55 PM
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| VaccaRabite |
Apr 21 2008, 08:33 PM
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Well, why not.
In the mind of the corporate exec, if you had the option of selling X gallons of fuel, or Y gallons of fuel (and X > Y) you would need a pretty spectacular argument on why you would choose option Y. Other things to consider: Reformulation costs money. Lots of money. Most corporations are resistant to change (especially change that could damage profits). The only reason most corporations change in a manner which reduces overall sales is due to governmental oversight. Big oil has a long history of buying up patents that would reduce fuel needs and shelving them. I say do the experiment. It might be snake oil, it might not. The only way to tell is to run it in your car, plot the numbers, and report back. For myself, the cons (acetone is nasty stuff, it might kill my paint if I spill it, and the marginal benefit does not outsize the marginal cost in my time) don't make it a viable experiment right now. Zach |
| Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 21 2008, 08:56 PM
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Well, why not. ................... snip .......................................................... Big oil has a long history of buying up patents that would reduce fuel needs and shelving them. .................... snip ...................................... Zach Care to list some of those patents? That assertion has been floating around for decades, maybe even a century, and I've never heard of a single verifiable proof it's been happening. And I wasn't talking about "big oil". It's like the fabled 1930s "100 MPG carburetor" that agents of Standard Oil stole (and killed the inventor). Not bloody likely, as they say. It's the car manufacturers who are under the government gun, the gun called "CAFE", and who are desperate for ways to meet the new fuel economy standards with cars that weigh more every year because they have to install all the mandated safety equipment to protect the motoring public from itself. What's a 914/6 weigh? You think they could have produced a Boxster (25 years later) that weighs the same? Maybe not. The Cap'n |
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Apr 22 2008, 11:03 AM
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It's the car manufacturers who are under the government gun, the gun called "CAFE", and who are desperate for ways to meet the new fuel economy standards with cars that weigh more every year because they have to install all the mandated safety equipment to protect the motoring public from itself. What's a 914/6 weigh? You think they could have produced a Boxster (25 years later) that weighs the same? Maybe not. The Cap'n A boxster that weighs the same as the 914-6. That'd be an Elise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
Engman Gas Additive Apr 21 2008, 07:55 PM
Cap'n Krusty My standard answer: If this stuff/thing/system/pr... Apr 21 2008, 08:12 PM
r_towle
My standard answer: If this stuff/thing/system/p... Apr 23 2008, 01:11 PM
Vacca Rabite
Care to list some of those patents? That asserti... Apr 21 2008, 09:16 PM
Elliot Cannon
Well, why not.
................... snip .......... Apr 22 2008, 12:14 AM
Jake Raby I have yet to see a single fuel or oil additive th... Apr 21 2008, 09:04 PM
Pat Garvey In my first life, I was a chemist for Kodak - a QC... Apr 21 2008, 09:19 PM
Vacca Rabite I would never, ever do this on a 914. Modern car ... Apr 21 2008, 09:26 PM
sean_v8_914 maybe I'll try it in my 500 dollar car(no not ... Apr 21 2008, 10:34 PM
Elliot Cannon A friend of mine had a chevy van transmission drop... Apr 22 2008, 12:08 AM
spare time toys I put acetone in my passats tank all the time. I ... Apr 22 2008, 12:52 AM
Headrage
Care to list some of those patents? That asserti... Apr 22 2008, 12:06 PM
Dave_Darling I know some people who have tested the Acetone thi... Apr 22 2008, 10:12 PM
Porcharu I worked in my beater Volvo that I used to drive t... Apr 23 2008, 01:25 AM
Richard Casto It's bogus. I know people who have tried it a... Apr 23 2008, 11:13 AM
Brando If you'll run acetone in your system, I also h... Apr 23 2008, 12:50 PM
736conver HHO is the way to go. My next door neighbor inst... Apr 23 2008, 03:14 PM
Richard Casto
HHO is the way to go. My next door neighbor ins... Apr 23 2008, 09:07 PM
Cap'n Krusty If you believe that crap works, I have a 12 lane b... Apr 23 2008, 05:08 PM
zymurgist
If you believe that crap works, I have a 12 lane ... Apr 23 2008, 05:34 PM
736conver lol
Not here to argue it.
I seen it first hand. ... Apr 23 2008, 05:21 PM
Dr. Roger
lol
Not here to argue it.
I seen it first hand.... Apr 23 2008, 06:32 PM
Cap'n Krusty Don't go confusing them with facts, it's n... Apr 23 2008, 08:28 PM
736conver Doctor Roger, Did you read the whole wiki article... Apr 23 2008, 08:39 PM
Dr. Roger
Doctor Roger, Did you read the whole wiki articl... Apr 23 2008, 09:52 PM
Dr. Roger quoted from wiki:
<As a fuel supplement
Oxyhy... Apr 23 2008, 09:54 PM
Dr. Roger and taken from one of the technical reference foot... Apr 23 2008, 10:04 PM
ericread All this talk of secret fuel additives reminds me ... Apr 23 2008, 11:40 PM
Borderline When I was in college (yes, many years ago) I took... Apr 24 2008, 12:04 AM
DNHunt It's kind of interesting that this topic came ... Apr 24 2008, 11:41 AM
Cap'n Krusty Without going past the opening page, my knee-jerk ... Apr 24 2008, 12:14 PM![]() ![]() |
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