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> Replacing my Brakes
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post May 12 2008, 11:10 AM
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This weekend was step one of two of replacing the brakes on my '76. The previous owner upon selling to me told me that he had rebuilt the front calipers and the brake fluid looked very nice and fresh in the master cylinder. Looks like a nice fresh tank of ATE super blue..... I will find out later that what's in that tank doesnt look like what's in the brake lines....

I started this project because when turning the wheels in the rear to set timing, I can hear the left rear brake dragging, and loudly. I feared it was a bearing, but it wasnt. The brake was dragging. I lift the car and put it on 4 jackstands, the evil kind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I need some proper pin-thru stands. I have all 4 tires under the car in case the car decides it wants to smoosh me.

I'm using 4 new rebuilt calipers from Eric Shea. With these calipers are 4 new rotors, new front bearings, new seals, 4 new softlines, all new pads. A total of $1038 in parts from Eric.

From the pic...the parts are gorgeous!


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post May 12 2008, 11:35 AM
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How does this happen? These seals look completely melted! What's going on here?


I want to end this section with how I removed the softlines.

You need an 11mm open wrench and a 17mmcombination wrench and 17mmdeep socket, more on the deep socket in a minute.

The front soft lines are easy to get off because there are two clips, one holding either end of the line. Make sure you have the 17mm on the soft line and the 11mm on the hard line and lefty loosy those suckers apart. I think you will break the hard lines if you dont support both sides of the joint. The soft lines can be on there pretty good! My soft lines were original to the car by the small metal collar on them saying 05/75. Making these lines 33 years old in service!

The rear softlines are a BITCH to get off. Eric Shea gave me a great tip on how to get them off: you need to cut the line very close to where they go up into the body. Then you put the 11mm wrench on the hardline up there, and put the 17mm deep socket on the softline fitting and then CAREFULLY wrench away. I had to use needle nose pliers to get the clips off of the softline fitting to drop it off the mount there. You have to work it back and forth and it'll come off...eventually. I bent the mounting tabs down slightly to seperate the softlines from the hardline joints. I suggest cleaning the hard line flares thoroughly before re-attaching the new soft lines.

The rear brake rotors came off really easily after the PB blaster was used on the flat-head screws that keep them on. The inner adjusters came off really easily after PB Blaster. I didnt have to do anything other than use a 4mm allen key, easy.

The left caliper had brake fluid inside the parking brake mechanism, I think this means the thing is shot. I'm not sure though.


I will end by saying that my brakes didnt feel spongy per-se. They were pretty much non-existant until you pushed nice and hard on the pedal. I think the brakes are in horrible shape and am really glad that I got a whole new set. I hope the car will be less sluggish and will not overheat in the future. I'm also looking forward to some improved stopping.

Does anyone have any recommendations for some brake fluid for me? I have super blue in there, I'd like a gold or orange colored fluid so that when I flush the system I know when I'm good and flushed.

I'm awaiting some parts that USPS lost in shipping before I can finish the job and put these pretty new brakes back on. I'll post the completion in here! Hope you enjoyed!
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purple   Replacing my Brakes   May 12 2008, 11:10 AM
purple   After some more investigation, it turns out that n...   May 12 2008, 11:18 AM
purple   The right rear caliper came off pretty easily and ...   May 12 2008, 11:20 AM
purple   On to the fronts! I shot the rotor screws wit...   May 12 2008, 11:24 AM
purple   The last caliper to remove for the day is the righ...   May 12 2008, 11:25 AM
Joe Mama   Looks like a herniated disc from Joe Sharps XRays....   May 12 2008, 11:29 AM
purple   :WTF: How does this happen? These seals look com...   May 12 2008, 11:35 AM
Joe Mama   ATE makes a blue and gold colored fluid. I altern...   May 12 2008, 11:38 AM
purple   Oh good! Do I need DOT4 or DOT5?   May 12 2008, 11:44 AM
Joe Mama   ATE is DOT 4, I would avoid DOT 5 like the plague....   May 12 2008, 11:48 AM
purple   ATE is DOT 4, I would avoid DOT 5 like the plague...   May 12 2008, 11:49 AM
Eric_Shea   Good write-up. Fluid inside the handbrake mecha...   May 12 2008, 11:54 AM
purple   I'm hoping for some amazing stopping power...   May 12 2008, 11:59 AM
Eric_Shea   Silly-cone. Because our systems were designed f...   May 12 2008, 12:01 PM
Eric_Shea   I'd bet this was the initial problem with th...   May 12 2008, 01:33 PM
purple   Would that explain why no fluid leaked out of the ...   May 12 2008, 01:40 PM
Eric_Shea   Pretty much. Your lines were basically swollen ...   May 12 2008, 02:55 PM
purple   No wonder the holes in the brake lines looked so t...   May 12 2008, 03:01 PM
purple   I found a website that detailed the bleeding proce...   May 13 2008, 11:40 AM
Carlitos Way   I love seeing highly motivated individuals work on...   May 13 2008, 12:05 PM
purple   :D that's the first time i've been describ...   May 13 2008, 12:08 PM
purple   Some progress and some questions: I put the front...   May 16 2008, 09:06 AM
Eric_Shea   That be why we don't include them... :( Too...   May 16 2008, 03:14 PM
purple   Been a while since I updated the thread... Eric S...   May 31 2008, 08:32 AM
SLITS   How do you get all the air out of the system? Oh ...   May 31 2008, 08:57 AM
Eric_Shea   :agree: First off... it takes a "ton" of...   May 31 2008, 11:42 AM
sww914   I've used plenty of pressure bleeders and vacu...   May 31 2008, 01:05 PM
purple   thanks guys! Looks like the fiance will be com...   May 31 2008, 03:36 PM
purple   I hate this car. I want it out of my life. It dri...   Jun 1 2008, 02:27 PM
Eric_Shea   :( Hang tight... you're doing all the right t...   Jun 1 2008, 08:19 PM
Spoke   :( Next, did you set your venting clearance to ....   Jun 1 2008, 08:46 PM
John   I'm really not sure what is happening with you...   Jun 1 2008, 10:59 PM
purple   I'm really not sure what is happening with yo...   Jun 2 2008, 08:23 AM
Cupomeat   Well as it appears that you are giving up on it, I...   Jun 2 2008, 10:16 AM
ericread   Hey Purp; We've talked before and although I ...   Jun 2 2008, 11:27 AM
Spoke   Purple Wrote: the venting clearance.... I must not...   Jun 2 2008, 11:36 AM
rjames   Just checking to make sure that by "st...   Jun 2 2008, 11:50 AM
Lavanaut   oh, wouldnt it just figure this piece of shit nee...   Jun 2 2008, 11:56 AM
purple   oh, wouldnt it just figure this piece of shit ne...   Jun 2 2008, 12:17 PM
purple   The rear pads just dont seem right to me... if you...   Jun 2 2008, 12:00 PM
So.Cal.914   Purple, do you have a camara? Take some pic's,...   Jun 2 2008, 12:21 PM
markb   I've had a love/hate relationship with my car ...   Jun 3 2008, 01:00 AM
purple   Okay, I've calmed down a bit and realize a mis...   Jun 3 2008, 10:41 AM
Spoke   You wrote: "if you dont set it very well, doe...   Jun 3 2008, 12:12 PM
purple   Okay! The reason I think to take the spacers ...   Jun 3 2008, 12:33 PM
davep   Don't forget that the correct venting clearanc...   Jun 3 2008, 12:37 PM
purple   I think something else is at play... I just adjus...   Jun 3 2008, 07:56 PM
flesburg   Purple. I have been fooling with 914s since 1974. ...   Jun 3 2008, 10:16 PM
Spoke   Sounds like you got the venting clearance under co...   Jun 4 2008, 07:11 AM
John   If you really want a firm brake pedal, you can rep...   Jun 4 2008, 08:54 AM
purple   You know, you guys are right. I've never drive...   Jun 4 2008, 09:01 AM
rjames   I always thought the following proceedure was su...   Jun 4 2008, 11:50 AM
rhodyguy   if you don't have them you really need to orde...   Jun 4 2008, 12:01 PM
Eric_Shea   Ahhhhhhhhh... it's in your blood!! ...   Jun 4 2008, 11:32 PM
cwpeden   Just a note for those of us who are using a 19mm M...   Jun 4 2008, 11:46 PM
John   Just a note for those of us who are using a 19mm ...   Jun 4 2008, 11:52 PM
Eric_Shea   And less mechanical advantage. ;) Frankly, I t...   Jun 5 2008, 12:30 AM
davep   Frankly, I think way too much fuss has been made ...   Jun 5 2008, 07:54 AM
Smitty911   One thing to remember on working on any Car, is th...   Jun 7 2008, 11:12 AM


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