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| purple |
May 12 2008, 11:10 AM
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This weekend was step one of two of replacing the brakes on my '76. The previous owner upon selling to me told me that he had rebuilt the front calipers and the brake fluid looked very nice and fresh in the master cylinder. Looks like a nice fresh tank of ATE super blue..... I will find out later that what's in that tank doesnt look like what's in the brake lines....
I started this project because when turning the wheels in the rear to set timing, I can hear the left rear brake dragging, and loudly. I feared it was a bearing, but it wasnt. The brake was dragging. I lift the car and put it on 4 jackstands, the evil kind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I need some proper pin-thru stands. I have all 4 tires under the car in case the car decides it wants to smoosh me. I'm using 4 new rebuilt calipers from Eric Shea. With these calipers are 4 new rotors, new front bearings, new seals, 4 new softlines, all new pads. A total of $1038 in parts from Eric. From the pic...the parts are gorgeous! Attached image(s)
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Jun 3 2008, 12:37 PM
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Don't forget that the correct venting clearance is 0.004" between the pad and the rotor. You basically have to jig the feeler guage (move up down a bit) while turning the adjuster and 'feel' the drag on the feeler increase up to the point where the drag is not quite clamped. If you get it too tight, you have to back off and try again. It will take a few tries to get the right 'feel'. Then spin the rotor to see if you get it to rub anywhere in the rotation. At the tightest spot, you may want to reset the clearance one more time. You have to do this for each of the 4 pads. Make sure you lock the outer adjuster, and securely cap the inner adjuster. You may want to remove one of the inner adjusters before capping and put away in a secure location. The inner caps are supposed to have a copper washer under the head. You may have to rap on the rear calipers with a rubber mallet to dislodge bubbles deep in the adjuster mechanisms. If you apply the brakes (foot on pedal) then that will compress the bubbles and make it easier to dislodge bubbles in the various components of the brake system.
Since the front calipers do not have an adjustment mechanism, you have to use hydraulic pressure to force the pistons out to make the pads contact the rotors. I always remove old fluid from the reservoir with a syringe before starting, clean with Q-tips, and fill with fresh fluid. Keep brake fluid away from paint!! When bleeding, the person pumping the pedal may have to pump several times to build up pressure, then hold the pedal down while the other person opens the bleed nipple to let the fluid and air out, then close the bleed nipple again before the brake pedal is released. With old master cylinders it is not recommended to allow the pedal to go to the spot. In such cases a wooden block can be used to spot the pedal perhaps half way. The reasoning is that an old cylinder may have faults in the bore (caused by rust or dirt) that could damage the seal on the piston. To reduce the chance of damage to the seal you restrict the stroke. Most times you get lucky and no damage is done, however if you have only s**t luck, then take the extra precautions. Normally I use my wife or daughter to pump, and call out PUMP, HOLD, and RELEASE while I open and close the bleed nipple. Carefully watch how much fluid comes out, and every two ounces go and refill the reservoir; never let the reservoir empty or you will have to start again. |
purple Replacing my Brakes May 12 2008, 11:10 AM
purple After some more investigation, it turns out that n... May 12 2008, 11:18 AM
purple The right rear caliper came off pretty easily and ... May 12 2008, 11:20 AM
purple On to the fronts!
I shot the rotor screws wit... May 12 2008, 11:24 AM
purple The last caliper to remove for the day is the righ... May 12 2008, 11:25 AM
Joe Mama Looks like a herniated disc from Joe Sharps XRays.... May 12 2008, 11:29 AM
purple :WTF:
How does this happen? These seals look com... May 12 2008, 11:35 AM
Joe Mama ATE makes a blue and gold colored fluid. I altern... May 12 2008, 11:38 AM
purple Oh good! Do I need DOT4 or DOT5? May 12 2008, 11:44 AM
Joe Mama ATE is DOT 4, I would avoid DOT 5 like the plague.... May 12 2008, 11:48 AM
purple
ATE is DOT 4, I would avoid DOT 5 like the plague... May 12 2008, 11:49 AM
Eric_Shea Good write-up.
Fluid inside the handbrake mecha... May 12 2008, 11:54 AM
purple I'm hoping for some amazing stopping power... May 12 2008, 11:59 AM
Eric_Shea
Silly-cone.
Because our systems were designed f... May 12 2008, 12:01 PM
Eric_Shea
I'd bet this was the initial problem with th... May 12 2008, 01:33 PM
purple Would that explain why no fluid leaked out of the ... May 12 2008, 01:40 PM
Eric_Shea
Pretty much. Your lines were basically swollen ... May 12 2008, 02:55 PM
purple No wonder the holes in the brake lines looked so t... May 12 2008, 03:01 PM
purple I found a website that detailed the bleeding proce... May 13 2008, 11:40 AM
Carlitos Way I love seeing highly motivated individuals work on... May 13 2008, 12:05 PM
purple :D that's the first time i've been describ... May 13 2008, 12:08 PM
purple Some progress and some questions:
I put the front... May 16 2008, 09:06 AM
Eric_Shea
That be why we don't include them... :(
Too... May 16 2008, 03:14 PM
purple Been a while since I updated the thread...
Eric S... May 31 2008, 08:32 AM
SLITS
How do you get all the air out of the system? Oh ... May 31 2008, 08:57 AM
Eric_Shea :agree: First off... it takes a "ton" of... May 31 2008, 11:42 AM
sww914 I've used plenty of pressure bleeders and vacu... May 31 2008, 01:05 PM
purple thanks guys! Looks like the fiance will be com... May 31 2008, 03:36 PM
purple I hate this car.
I want it out of my life. It dri... Jun 1 2008, 02:27 PM
Eric_Shea :(
Hang tight... you're doing all the right t... Jun 1 2008, 08:19 PM
Spoke
:(
Next, did you set your venting clearance to .... Jun 1 2008, 08:46 PM
John I'm really not sure what is happening with you... Jun 1 2008, 10:59 PM
purple
I'm really not sure what is happening with yo... Jun 2 2008, 08:23 AM
Cupomeat Well as it appears that you are giving up on it, I... Jun 2 2008, 10:16 AM
ericread Hey Purp;
We've talked before and although I ... Jun 2 2008, 11:27 AM
Spoke Purple Wrote:
the venting clearance.... I must not... Jun 2 2008, 11:36 AM
rjames
Just checking to make sure that by "st... Jun 2 2008, 11:50 AM
Lavanaut
oh, wouldnt it just figure this piece of shit nee... Jun 2 2008, 11:56 AM
purple
oh, wouldnt it just figure this piece of shit ne... Jun 2 2008, 12:17 PM
purple The rear pads just dont seem right to me... if you... Jun 2 2008, 12:00 PM
So.Cal.914 Purple, do you have a camara? Take some pic's,... Jun 2 2008, 12:21 PM
markb I've had a love/hate relationship with my car ... Jun 3 2008, 01:00 AM
purple Okay, I've calmed down a bit and realize a mis... Jun 3 2008, 10:41 AM
Spoke You wrote:
"if you dont set it very well, doe... Jun 3 2008, 12:12 PM
purple Okay!
The reason I think to take the spacers ... Jun 3 2008, 12:33 PM
purple I think something else is at play...
I just adjus... Jun 3 2008, 07:56 PM
flesburg Purple. I have been fooling with 914s since 1974. ... Jun 3 2008, 10:16 PM
Spoke Sounds like you got the venting clearance under co... Jun 4 2008, 07:11 AM
John If you really want a firm brake pedal, you can rep... Jun 4 2008, 08:54 AM
purple You know, you guys are right. I've never drive... Jun 4 2008, 09:01 AM
rjames
I always thought the following proceedure was su... Jun 4 2008, 11:50 AM
rhodyguy if you don't have them you really need to orde... Jun 4 2008, 12:01 PM
Eric_Shea
Ahhhhhhhhh... it's in your blood!!
... Jun 4 2008, 11:32 PM
cwpeden Just a note for those of us who are using a 19mm M... Jun 4 2008, 11:46 PM
John
Just a note for those of us who are using a 19mm ... Jun 4 2008, 11:52 PM
Eric_Shea
And less mechanical advantage. ;)
Frankly, I t... Jun 5 2008, 12:30 AM
davep
Frankly, I think way too much fuss has been made ... Jun 5 2008, 07:54 AM
Smitty911 One thing to remember on working on any Car, is th... Jun 7 2008, 11:12 AM![]() ![]() |
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