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> Pulse plugs..., who's heard of and/or using them?
dbgriffith75
post Jun 5 2008, 12:48 PM
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So I was at the auto parts store today picking up some new tools, and as I was standing at the counter I noticed a layout advertisement for a newly designed spark plug called a "pulse plug." Basically its the same concept as a spark plug, only with an added internal capacitor to create a spark 10 times more powerful than your average plug. It's supposed to burn feul more efficiently, resulting in increased mileage, HP and torque.

I was just curious if anybody's heard of and/or using them, and if it actually holds up to the claims? I'm not specifically talking about a 914 either, because I wouldn't mind using them in my DD if it's really true.

Here's the website I found on them: http://www.pulstarplug.com

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post Jun 5 2008, 01:57 PM
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I don't get it. They say these plugs "store incoming electrical energy from the ignition system." Where is it getting extra power to "store up" and then release? A plug only gets power when the dizzy sends it, and then it gets all there is to get. I don't see how these things could store and release more power if no more is being sent to them.

Also, can someone explain to me how multiple spark systems help? Atomized gas + oxygen is so explosive that it instantly touches off with a spark. How does an additional spark help? Drop a match in a bucket of gas... Dropping a second one isn't going to make it burn faster. I know - that's a bad analogy that doesn't really apply - But I would like to understand how multispark really helps/works. And twin plug for that matter (not doubting it). I just would have thought that one spark lights it - once it's lit the explosion starts - how does another spark help?

Regarding their Toyota Prius results... I thought the gas motor only charged the batteries in those things, and all the power to the wheels comes from the electric. Is that incorrect? (Hey, maybe Otmar could pick up some power with these things in his electric 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )
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QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 5 2008, 12:57 PM) *

I don't get it. They say these plugs "store incoming electrical energy from the ignition system." Where is it getting extra power to "store up" and then release? A plug only gets power when the dizzy sends it, and then it gets all there is to get. I don't see how these things could store and release more power if no more is being sent to them.

Also, can someone explain to me how multiple spark systems help? Atomized gas + oxygen is so explosive that it instantly touches off with a spark. How does an additional spark help? Drop a match in a bucket of gas... Dropping a second one isn't going to make it burn faster. I know - that's a bad analogy that doesn't really apply - But I would like to understand how multispark really helps/works. And twin plug for that matter.

Regarding their Toyota Prius results... I thought the gas motor only charged the batteries in those things, and all the power to the wheels comes from the electric. Is that incorrect? (Hey, maybe Otmar could pick up some power with these things in his electric 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )


It appears the plug probably contains a capacitor that stores electricity and releases it all at once. There is some science behind that. Not sure if it actually works though.

There is always some fuel unburned and the multispark systems attempt to burn that up. Probably makes for a better idle and cleaner running engine.

The gas motor on the Prius is intended to give you power when your battery power is inadequate. So it turns on at acceleration and long highway trips etc.

Beware of anyone's research when the result can benefit them. Pulstar is testing their own product. If it works they sell more product. So it behooves them to make it appear to work. BIAS!!! These things should be tested double blind in an independent lab that gains nothing but their fee no matter what the result. It is good science to prove something doesn't work or does work. This is actually a very good thesis project for a grad student in engineering.
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jun 5 2008, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 5 2008, 12:57 PM) *

I don't get it. They say these plugs "store incoming electrical energy from the ignition system." Where is it getting extra power to "store up" and then release? A plug only gets power when the dizzy sends it, and then it gets all there is to get. I don't see how these things could store and release more power if no more is being sent to them.

Also, can someone explain to me how multiple spark systems help? Atomized gas + oxygen is so explosive that it instantly touches off with a spark. How does an additional spark help? Drop a match in a bucket of gas... Dropping a second one isn't going to make it burn faster. I know - that's a bad analogy that doesn't really apply - But I would like to understand how multispark really helps/works. And twin plug for that matter.

Regarding their Toyota Prius results... I thought the gas motor only charged the batteries in those things, and all the power to the wheels comes from the electric. Is that incorrect? (Hey, maybe Otmar could pick up some power with these things in his electric 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )


It appears the plug probably contains a capacitor that stores electricity and releases it all at once. There is some science behind that. Not sure if it actually works though.

There is always some fuel unburned and the multispark systems attempt to burn that up. Probably makes for a better idle and cleaner running engine.

The gas motor on the Prius is intended to give you power when your battery power is inadequate. So it turns on at acceleration and long highway trips etc.

Beware of anyone's research when the result can benefit them. Pulstar is testing their own product. If it works they sell more product. So it behooves them to make it appear to work. BIAS!!! These things should be tested double blind in an independent lab that gains nothing but their fee no matter what the result. It is good science to prove something doesn't work or does work. This is actually a very good thesis project for a grad student in engineering.

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dbgriffith75   Pulse plugs...   Jun 5 2008, 12:48 PM
URY914   BS.   Jun 5 2008, 12:56 PM
Zundfolge   Snake Oil. If pulse plugs performed half as well ...   Jun 5 2008, 01:01 PM
ericread   I'm curious :confused: I see that this plug...   Jun 5 2008, 01:12 PM
r_towle   I figured wth...might try them... $25.00 per...   Jun 5 2008, 01:15 PM
Brando   I'm waiting to hear back from them...   Jun 5 2008, 01:23 PM
Brando   Interesting test results: http://www.pulstarplug.c...   Jun 5 2008, 01:25 PM
dbgriffith75   Yeah, they're a bit pricey, but not the most...   Jun 5 2008, 01:36 PM
ericread   Yeah, they're a bit pricey, but not the mos...   Jun 5 2008, 01:44 PM
Rand   I don't get it. They say these plugs "sto...   Jun 5 2008, 01:57 PM
ConeDodger   I don't get it. They say these plugs "st...   Jun 5 2008, 02:09 PM
6freak   I don't get it. They say these plugs "s...   Jun 5 2008, 03:00 PM
ericread   I don't get it. They say these plugs "st...   Jun 5 2008, 02:10 PM
biosurfer1   Regarding their Toyota Prius results... I thoug...   Jun 5 2008, 02:10 PM
messix   oh jake! i'll try on the msd and crane, ...   Jun 5 2008, 02:13 PM
Brando   So, am i the only one that read through the websit...   Jun 5 2008, 02:20 PM
ConeDodger   So, am i the only one that read through the websi...   Jun 5 2008, 02:48 PM
dbgriffith75   That's what a capacitor does. To put it a l...   Jun 5 2008, 02:22 PM
r_towle   That's what a capacitor does. To put it a ...   Jun 5 2008, 03:38 PM
ericread   [quote name='dbgriffith75' post='1041158' date='J...   Jun 5 2008, 04:10 PM
messix   google "ohm's law" you can't g...   Jun 5 2008, 04:02 PM
904svo   My son has a Dyno we have seen small power gains w...   Jun 5 2008, 04:38 PM
Brando   How about on a CDI ignition setup?   Jun 5 2008, 06:08 PM
Tom   Capicators do not automatically discharge. They me...   Jun 5 2008, 06:27 PM
Rand   This is getting fun. I understand how a capacitor...   Jun 5 2008, 06:44 PM
Tom   OK , after further thought, in certain circumstanc...   Jun 5 2008, 07:26 PM
ericread   OK , after further thought, in certain circumstan...   Jun 5 2008, 11:11 PM
mskala   Not to get extremely technical, which I couldn...   Jun 5 2008, 07:35 PM
Tom   Eric, You're welcome. It almost seems l...   Jun 5 2008, 11:36 PM


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