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r_towle
post May 7 2008, 08:25 PM
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I started this on another site...not alot of joiners.
The idea is to test, tune, and tweek your car, and your driving style, to get the most MPG in a 914.
This is a redo of a contest that the NY region did with 356's back in the day.
These guys got 70mpg with one guy getting 100mpg.
Alot of it is tuning, more if it is driving style.

Here are the ground rules.
We have several classes.
1.7, 1.8, 2.0, 2.0/6, and modified (all the rest of you), and vendors (special class)
This is for 914's

Using the honor system the goal is to win the mpg goal in your class.

I am in 1.7 and aiming for 40mpg this first round out..
The contest will run from Memorial Day till Labor Day...this gives us all time to change things and tune things.

This is meant to be fun with the 914magazine offering t-shirts as the prize...so its not meant to be for cheating.

So, if you want to join, list the following.
year, motor, tire size
Use GPS or highway mileage markers to verify your odometer so we are all being fair.

Rich
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post Jun 7 2008, 07:04 PM
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I got Dr Evil to rebuild my gear stack and we talked about taller 5th. He discouraged it (we all know- for cooling). I really thought about it and wanted it too. But ultimately I think the engine cooling must really be "at the edge" already, and extended highway time torque loading (like a long hill) would provide less cooling than is really needed- cooking the life out of the oil even faster and contributing to higher wear.
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post Jun 8 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(SGB @ Jun 7 2008, 09:04 PM) *

I got Dr Evil to rebuild my gear stack and we talked about taller 5th. He discouraged it (we all know- for cooling). I really thought about it and wanted it too. But ultimately I think the engine cooling must really be "at the edge" already, and extended highway time torque loading (like a long hill) would provide less cooling than is really needed- cooking the life out of the oil even faster and contributing to higher wear.


I have never seen any data to support this claim.
I am just rigging up a full gauge setup to monitor heat, and then I will play with gears...

If we stick with stock motors, the tranny is the next thing to futz with that delivers better mileage.
A taller gear will still keep the car above 3k (my goal at 75mph ish)
I will test to see what the differences are with several 5th gear sizes to monitor not only MPG, but heat...I think there is alot of room for different and taller gears here...its a light weight car, and with its relatively low co-efficient of drag, it should be ok with a taller gear...its not a bus guys...

If I talk with someone who actually put a taller gear in a 914 (nothing else) and has experienced heat/cooling issues on the highway, I will consider the myth subtantiated, but till then...I will have to run the test myself to see real world data...its really the only way to know for sure at this point..

My gauge setup will have CHT on all four plugs, and oil temp, and oil pressure..along with fuel pressure and amps...
I am looking for a decent mileage/trip computer to use so I can keep long term track of things...right now its pen and paper...

I am totally open to suggestions on this..I will attempt to try and test as many decent ideas as we come up with and share the results.

Does anyone have the stock torque curve for a 1.7 (72) dJet motor? I would like to see the chart to plan the gear selection with the idea to keep it right at the peak torque with the gears...the most efficient area for shifting.

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r_towle   MPG Contest   May 7 2008, 08:25 PM
Wanna9146   2 gallons has lasted me almost 1 yr. Of cours...   May 7 2008, 08:31 PM
Vacca Rabite   The electric guys are going to smoke us. Well, ok...   May 7 2008, 08:51 PM
racunniff   The electric guys are going to smoke us. Well, o...   May 7 2008, 09:24 PM
r_towle   * The electrics would have to drive the same kind...   May 7 2008, 09:26 PM
racunniff   * The electrics would have to drive the same ...   May 7 2008, 09:28 PM
jcd914   Is there a required minimum distance covered? If ...   May 7 2008, 08:52 PM
SirAndy   So, if you want to join, list the following. year...   May 7 2008, 09:17 PM
r_towle   damn, 24mpg for that beast is pretty interesting. ...   May 7 2008, 09:22 PM
SirAndy   BTW (OT) I found an article in Up Fixen der Porsc...   May 7 2008, 09:25 PM
Root_Werks   Keeeerap, my 914 would loose right now (carbs suck...   May 7 2008, 09:23 PM
r_towle   Record miles driven, term and type of charge...you...   May 7 2008, 09:35 PM
racunniff   Record miles driven, term and type of charge...yo...   May 7 2008, 11:00 PM
SGB   I'm in. 2.0 liter group I think all these wi...   May 7 2008, 10:06 PM
r_towle   fill it to the top, drive it for a while..fill it ...   May 7 2008, 10:13 PM
ChrisNPDrider   1972 1.7, tires TBD This is awesome! I just s...   May 7 2008, 10:17 PM
r_towle   lookup "low roll resistant tires" The ti...   May 7 2008, 10:19 PM
r_towle   So far here is the list. Class 1 (1.7) Towle, 72 1...   May 7 2008, 10:28 PM
Root_Werks   I'll be in for class 5 1976 914-6 Modified 2....   May 7 2008, 10:56 PM
jd74914   My 1.8 should be registered in 2 or 3 weeks, once ...   May 7 2008, 10:59 PM
type47   i'd like to participate just for the fun of it...   May 8 2008, 11:10 AM
Travis Neff   I am in, just fixed the odo over the weekend. 72 ...   May 8 2008, 11:17 AM
r_towle   Updated list of contestants Class 1 (1.7) r_towl...   May 8 2008, 11:37 AM
racunniff   Updated list of contestants ... SGB 2.0 liter c...   Jun 3 2008, 11:00 PM
SGB   I think modified with stock displacement should go...   May 8 2008, 11:50 AM
keske968   Awesome... I'm the first in class 4!!...   May 8 2008, 03:18 PM
SGB   I have not been tracking, but have barely used the...   Jun 3 2008, 11:08 PM
r_towle   Are we still doing this?? If so I would like to re...   Jun 7 2008, 08:57 AM
effutuo101   Driving from Castle Rock Colorado to MOAB UT to Se...   Jun 7 2008, 11:49 AM
SGB   I got Dr Evil to rebuild my gear stack and we talk...   Jun 7 2008, 07:04 PM
r_towle   I got Dr Evil to rebuild my gear stack and we tal...   Jun 8 2008, 02:00 PM
9146986   Is a new 914 (986) eligible? A year ago I did a h...   Jun 8 2008, 11:13 AM
HAM Inc   As tall as the stock 5th is I feel that a stroker ...   Jun 8 2008, 11:24 AM
toon1   As tall as the stock 5th is I feel that a stroker...   Jun 8 2008, 11:58 AM
toon1   I got Dr Evil to rebuild my gear stack and we ta...   Jun 8 2008, 02:43 PM
dw914er   How do you sign up? Ill be in class 1 (73 1.7) (i...   Jun 8 2008, 03:08 PM
orthobiz   I'm in. Stock FI 1.8 1974 205/55 tires Only h...   Jun 8 2008, 07:58 PM
SGB   I've conceded to the easy. I'll track ...   Jun 8 2008, 10:22 PM
HAM Inc   I think it has to do with the pin hts and long s...   Jun 9 2008, 08:41 AM
toon1   Jake seems to be very tight lipped about this engi...   Jun 9 2008, 08:54 AM
HAM Inc   I think it's a sweet combo. It's not bruti...   Jun 9 2008, 01:28 PM
r_towle   I will update this thread later tonight to include...   Jun 9 2008, 05:22 PM
racunniff   I will update this thread later tonight to includ...   Jun 17 2008, 09:31 AM
SGB   This thread needs two spinoffs- Rich's re-gear...   Jun 17 2008, 05:30 PM
black73   Is this thing on?..... My stock 73 1.7 Djet is g...   Jul 8 2008, 04:27 PM
Rusty   Carbed 1.7. Average 28.1 MPG during 1010 miles......   Jul 8 2008, 09:06 PM
Elliot Cannon   THOMAS had a 1.7 with single throat carbs and got ...   Jul 8 2008, 09:18 PM
toon1   I'm not playing(probly should) but I just rece...   Jul 9 2008, 05:14 PM
SGB   On my trip from Huntsville to Charlotte I was gett...   Jul 9 2008, 05:54 PM
Joe Owensby   When my '73 1.7 was fairly new, it routinely g...   Sep 1 2008, 07:54 AM
Al Meredith   I drove my 1976 912E to Charlotte for the PCA even...   Sep 1 2008, 08:50 AM
Root_Werks   I drove my 1976 912E to Charlotte for the PCA eve...   Sep 2 2008, 08:48 AM
racunniff   Well, it's Labor Day, the end of our little co...   Sep 1 2008, 10:14 PM
SGB   Well.... How do you hold a gallon of electricity ...   Sep 1 2008, 10:22 PM
r_towle   I consider the consumables as part of your math......   Sep 1 2008, 10:28 PM
racunniff   I consider the consumables as part of your math.....   Sep 1 2008, 10:51 PM
racunniff   ...This gets it to 19.7 cents per mile. Which...   Sep 1 2008, 10:53 PM
Dr. Roger   my buddy clifford swears he got a combined highway...   Sep 1 2008, 10:53 PM


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