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| Lavanaut |
Oct 11 2007, 04:31 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Something's not right. Smells like exhuast in the cabin, and a very slight backfire has developed on the left side...like a very subtle 'pop pop pop' at idle, and a more pronounced, single 'POP' on decel around 2800-3100 RPM. I've got it paired up to a Triad exhaust. What gives?
I swore to my wife that I wouldn't have the car up on ramps for a while since I just pulled it down (after 2.5 months) 2 days ago, so I took it to a custom exhaust place here in town and had them do the install. They said I needed new hoses (parts 21 & 23 here, hope you don't mind George!). The original ones were put back on, but they're pretty deteriorated and have small holes/cuts in them. Could that be it? I wish I understood how heat exchangers worked. I did a search on google hoping to learn just that but came up empty. Yes, I realize that if there's exhaust pouring into the cabin it could potentially be fatal. I drove the car home with the windows down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I intend to contact the shop today, but was hoping to get some feedback from you all first. Thanks in advance Reid |
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| Lavanaut |
Jun 5 2008, 01:50 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Went and picked up the car today. Check out the pics of the section of pipe removed/replaced that was inside the heat shield. Crazy! This was obviously not a split at the seam formed when the pipe was rolled. I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around how this could happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That crack goes 270 degrees around the circumference of the pipe.
Driving the car home from the shop today was an eye opener. First thing I noticed was, well, no exhaust pouring into the cabin. That's a nice feature. Next thing I noticed was the sound...wow. Even with the leak the car sounded great in my opinion (not including the popping on decel). But man now it sounds just that much better. A much nicer resonance, more of a growl and less throaty is how I'd describe it. My wife followed me home from the shop and when she got out of our truck when we got home she said, "damn the car sounds sweet!" (she's a keeper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)). But the most rewarding part of this little 10 minute drive was just that...the drive itself. Very simply put, the throttle response was noticeably more precise. I don't fully understand the negative effects an exhaust leak can have on our little cars, but for those of you that do, does it make sense that it would drive better? I swear...and I don't think I'm imagining it...it seems a tad bit quicker as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) It's funny - I hadn't realized just how much the exahust leak issue had soured me on this car. Always having to drive with the windows down, popping every time I'd downshift or let off the accelerator at high RPM...kind of just sounds like no more than just a small annoyance. But now that it's fixed, well, I realize that it was more than an annoyance. It pretty much made me not want to drive the car at all. I can't believe how much I enjoyed the ride home from the shop today! I guess it was the first time I've ever actually driven my car with a properly functioning Triad/SSI combo...and it now comes HIGHLY recommended by me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Enough rambling, on to the pics. Thanks all for your input, it helped. |
| SirAndy |
Jun 5 2008, 02:19 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
This was obviously not a split at the seam formed when the pipe was rolled. I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around how this could happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That crack goes 270 degrees around the circumference of the pipe. stress crack ... maybe the car was run without a muffler hanger for a extended period of time ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
| orange914 |
Jun 9 2008, 12:13 AM
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http://5starmediaworks.com/index.html ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,371 Joined: 26-March 05 From: Ceres, California Member No.: 3,818 Region Association: Northern California |
This was obviously not a split at the seam formed when the pipe was rolled. I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around how this could happen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That crack goes 270 degrees around the circumference of the pipe. stress crack ... maybe the car was run without a muffler hanger for a extended period of time ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy i'd bet an explosion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) . too much fuel + trapped in heat = (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) besides it looks puckered out |
Lavanaut Got my SSIs installed Oct 11 2007, 04:31 PM
Rand :( Smelling fumes in the cabin and backfiring/popp... Oct 11 2007, 04:36 PM
Headrage Sounds like an exhaust leak where the h/e's me... Oct 11 2007, 04:53 PM
Brando I agree with the following... MUST be done! A ... May 30 2008, 01:33 PM
McMark SSIs are a PAIN IN THE ASS to fit. Every set I... Oct 11 2007, 05:00 PM
Root_Werks
SSIs are a PAIN IN THE ASS to fit. Every set I... May 27 2008, 06:20 PM
jaminM3 Did the shop even replace the copper gaskets? I al... Oct 11 2007, 05:20 PM
Hammy
Did the shop even replace the copper gaskets? I a... Oct 11 2007, 10:24 PM
orange914
Did the shop even replace the copper gaskets? I a... Jun 4 2008, 07:20 PM
2-OH! Is it exhaust or residual oil burning off the Heat... Oct 11 2007, 05:54 PM
rhodyguy old oil in the heat chambers stinks to high heaven... Oct 12 2007, 08:22 AM
Spoke
old oil in the heat chambers stinks to high heave... Oct 12 2007, 03:18 PM
Lavanaut Wow great feedback. As far as I know they did rep... Oct 12 2007, 03:46 PM
Lavanaut Another. First time I've had my car on a lift... Oct 12 2007, 03:46 PM
Lavanaut Last one Oct 12 2007, 03:47 PM
cassidy_bolger All I can say is, let me know if you drive over to... Oct 12 2007, 06:03 PM
Tom Noticed that your muffler bracket is different tha... Oct 12 2007, 06:44 PM
swl Warning - possible bad info. Gearheads please fla... Oct 12 2007, 07:03 PM
Rand
Warning - possible bad info. Gearheads please fl... Oct 12 2007, 07:31 PM
So.Cal.914
Warning - possible bad info. Gearheads please f... May 30 2008, 02:46 PM
swl My sample space is precisely 1 - that's why I ... Oct 12 2007, 07:37 PM
Andyrew Steve you do have a good idea, but I dont think yo... Oct 13 2007, 06:48 PM
r_towle I use my shoe.
Start the car, sit down behind.
Pu... Oct 13 2007, 08:53 PM
swl Lol - with that triad exhaust the shoe trick would... Oct 14 2007, 07:27 AM
Lavanaut Update ~ the shop was willing to refit the HEs for... May 27 2008, 02:44 PM
SirAndy
What I'm being told now is that the driver... May 27 2008, 02:57 PM
Bartlett 914
Update ~ the shop was willing to refit the HEs fo... May 27 2008, 03:31 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT If it's not too much you may as well have it f... May 27 2008, 02:56 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT I would think you could find out rather easily for... May 27 2008, 03:00 PM
914-8 I had a similar problem when I had my 2.0.
I know... May 27 2008, 03:00 PM
Lavanaut
[quote name='Lavanaut' post='1037324' date='May 2... May 27 2008, 03:32 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT Not really... Take a piece oftin and block off one... May 27 2008, 03:37 PM
Garold Shaffer It could very well be the pipe inside the tin has ... May 27 2008, 04:55 PM
rhodyguy what did they do to pinpoint the leak in the pipin... May 27 2008, 10:32 PM
Lavanaut
I doubt the pipe is leaking inside the tin but ma... May 30 2008, 01:04 PM
Bartlett 914
I doubt the pipe is leaking inside the tin but m... May 30 2008, 03:34 PM
Marty Yeoman
Time to put the stock exchangers back on I guess ... May 30 2008, 02:06 PM
Lavanaut
I don't think there's much of a market fo... Jun 4 2008, 12:19 PM
Garold Shaffer
I don't think there's much of a market f... Jun 4 2008, 01:28 PM
Lavanaut I must not have been clear. With the HE off of th... May 30 2008, 02:50 PM
Gint
I must not have been clear. With the HE off of t... May 30 2008, 04:21 PM
Headrage :agree: just fix the leak.
It wont take much to ... May 30 2008, 03:04 PM
Marty Yeoman
After further consideration though, I'm going... May 30 2008, 03:17 PM
Lavanaut Yep, bummer. They look fine, just one very small ... May 30 2008, 03:39 PM
Bartlett 914
Yep, bummer. They look fine, just one very small... May 30 2008, 05:06 PM
Marty Yeoman
Inside the tins the pipes are not bent much.
I... May 30 2008, 05:44 PM
Bartlett 914
Inside the tins the pipes are not bent much.
... May 30 2008, 07:07 PM
kwales That's just odd.
I do remember in metallurgy ... May 30 2008, 07:42 PM
Marty Yeoman
Are those your pipes in the picture? Why were the... May 30 2008, 11:16 PM
TeenerTim That's a huge amount rust for a stainless pipe... Jun 5 2008, 02:54 PM
6freak
That's a huge amount rust for a stainless pip... Jun 5 2008, 03:34 PM
SirAndy
That's a huge amount rust for a stainless pip... Jun 10 2008, 01:23 PM
Lavanaut One more, just for kicks. :wub:
Jun 5 2008, 01:51 PM
ericread OK, You've roped us all in...
Time to post ei... Jun 5 2008, 02:01 PM
Lavanaut You forgot a smiley at the end of your first sente... Jun 5 2008, 02:09 PM
ericread
You forgot a smiley at the end of your first sent... Jun 5 2008, 02:12 PM
Marty Yeoman Nice hole!!
I knew Shayne would take good... Jun 5 2008, 02:27 PM
Lavanaut
In just one of the pipes though? It seems like i... Jun 5 2008, 02:32 PM
6freak
In just one of the pipes though? It seems like ... Jun 5 2008, 02:47 PM
Garold Shaffer I wish I had the pictures from Brad's shop. ... Jun 5 2008, 02:43 PM
Garold Shaffer
I wish I had the pictures from Brad's shop. ... Jun 8 2008, 10:15 PM
Lavanaut Torque is a measure of rotational force around a p... Jun 5 2008, 02:54 PM
Gint Yikes!
I've been wondering if mine leak... Jun 8 2008, 11:34 PM
Brando Holy... wow... I've never seen SSI's like ... Jun 9 2008, 11:33 AM
Headrage Take a magnet to the section of pipe that was cut ... Jun 9 2008, 04:10 PM
Lavanaut Does not. :wavebye: Jun 9 2008, 04:14 PM
Eric_Shea
That car would look sweet with 5-lug Fuchs! ... Jun 9 2008, 05:27 PM
kwales A neighbor of mine looked at my new SSI's and... Jun 9 2008, 07:40 PM
Garold Shaffer
A neighbor of mine looked at my new SSI's an... Jun 9 2008, 09:51 PM
6freak
A neighbor of mine looked at my new SSI's a... Jun 9 2008, 10:33 PM
orange914
LOL just suck on the tail pipe :rotfl: once again... Jun 10 2008, 12:43 AM
Lavanaut ...that's exactly how the shop determine mine ... Jun 9 2008, 10:19 PM
9146986 If your SSI's have cracks anything like that T... Jun 10 2008, 09:58 AM
ericread
If your SSI's have cracks anything like that ... Jun 10 2008, 10:50 AM
9146986 There is a product for small aircraft, most of whi... Jun 10 2008, 12:48 PM
9146986 FWIW the factory used a form of stainless tubing w... Jun 10 2008, 08:52 PM
Racer Chris
FWIW the factory used a form of stainless tubing ... Jun 11 2008, 08:50 AM
9146986
The oem tubing was also much heavier wall thickne... Jun 11 2008, 12:37 PM![]() ![]() |
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