914 Condition Assessment Form?, Do we need this? |
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914 Condition Assessment Form?, Do we need this? |
JeffBowlsby |
Jun 25 2008, 07:23 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,524 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Would this be a useful tool for us? It would be a form sorta like the rental car agencies use to show existing damage only more detailed and specific to the 914. The form would benefit all parties to a transaction to more fully document the condition of a 914 to avoid misunderstandings and worse. I wish I had something like this on previous buys.
I envision a multipage form that is filled out by an owner, buyer or PPI inspector to document the condition of a given 914. Use it as a disclosure statement to a buyer, and a basis for negotiating a fair price. 914s are special interest cars now, with buyers finding cars far away where they cannot be personally inspected. The form would have simple line diagrams including all 4 sides of the car, a plan view looking down from the top, a plan of the bottom and interior views – all to be drawn upon and conditions noted. A buyer could insist that the seller fill it out (for full disclosure) or better, pay a PPI inspector to complete. A proactive seller would furnish it without asking as a sign of good faith. The form could be a free benefit (downloadable .pdf) of belonging to this fine forum. The form could be used as evidence to document a car before it is shipped in the event of shipper-caused damage. In addition to the diagrams a checklist of items to verify and room for comment would be included, covering everything from what is included in the sale (a list of extra parts and paperwork), the oil change/valve-adjustment history, to anything else the owners wishes to list ‘the top leaks and squeeks’, the registration expires in October’, ‘COA included’, etc. Specific condition items could easily be documented with this form that often get overlooked, with as much care as the inspector can supply, that often affects a 914s value. A basic level of inspection/documentation would be visual only and only cover things that can be observed without tools, lifts or removing any parts: -Curb rash on wheels -Non-op lighting/electrical mechanical system flaws -Body/trim/glass/weatherstripping/lenses – every chip/ding/scrape/flaw/rust bubble -Upholstery tears, carpet wear -Remaining tire tread -Shock absorber function -Driving test impressions -Non-stock or upgraded equipment -Missing/worn parts and funky repairs -Overall impression of cleanliness and maintenance -General classification of car as ‘show-driver-race-repairable-parts car’ A more thorough inspection/documentation would require additional time, tools and access which would most likely be done in a shop: -Underbody cleanliness or damage if a lift is available -Oil/brake fluid leaks -Brake rotor/pad thicknesses -Compression/leakdown tests -Exhaust system rust -Suspension/steering bushing wear -Rocker panel/Hellhole condition With the most complete reports, detailed photos of critical areas can be included with the report. Attached image(s) |
r_towle |
Jun 26 2008, 08:29 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
This is what a PPI is all about.
No form should be needed for a dedicated and knowlegable person providing this service. A PPI is typically only done by someone with a long history of working with these models. It should be very detailed, and cover all body, mechanical, and authenticity issues in detail. This is why a real PPI costs money, $100 or more depending upon proximity...and the cost is not based upon weather you buy the car. This is a professional service, not a money maker... In the 356 world, a PPI is typically done by a thrid party with 10-20 years experience working on 356's...either as an owner or restoration shop. A typical PPI is not done by a person that has not taken one of these cars apart and restored it...that is the only way to know ALL the potential issues... Also, at this stage of the market, we should be locating and providing a list of PPI service providers that have credentials to back up a PPI. This is more important than a standard way of doing a PPI...its pretty standard if you have had a few done. Expect a real PPI to be alot more detailed, with pictures, than any form could cover. Each car is different, thus a PPI. To build respect for the model, a PPI network of knowledgable and thorough reputable inspectors should be listed, like on the 356 registry. If you want a PPI, there is a list based upon location. Rich |
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