 VW Type 1 into 914, What are your thoughts? |
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| james2 |
 Jul 4 2008, 12:32 PM
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I have a 2332cc Type 1 engine. It dyno'd at 210 hp and 200 ft-lbs of torque on jake Raby's dyno.
Would I be viewed as a total hack if i put this in a 914? |
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| Jake Raby |
Jul 4 2008, 01:58 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
James, You should do it..
The biggest challenge will be cooling it, since the TI has 26% less cooling surface area than that of the TIV and the 914 is typically 600 pounds heavier than a beetle with much taller gearing.. With these 3 negative aspects, not even the DTM you have from me on that engine will be adequate, more than likely.. Twin plugs will help... The first production twin plug TIs are leaving Heaven in about 3 weeks :-) |
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| DBCooper |
Jul 4 2008, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jul 4 2008, 12:58 PM)  The first production twin plug TIs are leaving Heaven in about 3 weeks :-) "...leaving Heaven..." Huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Are you talking about Georgia? |
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| Jake Raby |
Jul 4 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Paul Illick @ Jul 4 2008, 02:16 PM) QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jul 4 2008, 12:58 PM) The first production twin plug TIs are leaving Heaven in about 3 weeks :-) "...leaving Heaven..." Huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Are you talking about Georgia? As in Aircooled Heaven, AKA RAT. We have been supplying a ton of TI production engines for the folks at Beck for their Speedsters and Spyders.. These twin plug engines are going into their cars, making 160 HP from 1914cc. A lightweight 550 replica doesn't need a mondo reliable TIV, they don't see 5K miles in 10 years most of the time. |
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| DBCooper |
Jul 4 2008, 06:27 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jul 4 2008, 04:11 PM) QUOTE(Paul Illick @ Jul 4 2008, 02:16 PM) QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Jul 4 2008, 12:58 PM) The first production twin plug TIs are leaving Heaven in about 3 weeks :-) "...leaving Heaven..." Huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Are you talking about Georgia? As in Aircooled Heaven, AKA RAT. Oh no. "Aircooled Heaven", where you're in charge... Tell me it ain't so, Jake. We didn't think good things about that guy who thought you had a God complex.... now it turns out... oh my... |
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james2 VW Type 1 into 914 Jul 4 2008, 12:32 PM
grantsfo I'd love to see it. I wish more people would ... Jul 4 2008, 01:39 PM
james2 well, I know the type 4 is better engine, it has t... Jul 4 2008, 02:08 PM Vacca Rabite No, I don't think that you would be a hack.
D... Jul 4 2008, 01:45 PM Chris Hamilton The type I has FAR more research and development p... Jul 4 2008, 01:51 PM grantsfo
The type I has FAR more research and development ... Jul 4 2008, 03:02 PM Chris Hamilton
So run in fun class? The guys who AX buggies do... Jul 4 2008, 05:08 PM dw914er
The type I has FAR more research and development... Jul 4 2008, 05:20 PM dw914er
The type I has FAR more research and development... Jul 4 2008, 05:20 PM grantsfo
Ive also seen a 9 second fiat with a T4
Does... Jul 5 2008, 12:49 PM Chris Hamilton
[quote name='dw914er' post='1052613' date='Jul 4 ... Jul 5 2008, 01:18 PM grantsfo
[quote name='dw914er' post='1052613' date='Jul 4... Jul 5 2008, 01:30 PM SirAndy
How's this for a decent type I?
except, it s... Jul 5 2008, 02:07 PM grantsfo
How's this for a decent type I?
except, it ... Jul 5 2008, 02:09 PM dw914er
Ive also seen a 9 second fiat with a T4
Doe... Jul 5 2008, 04:59 PM Dave_Darling So curious what is definition of a Porsche engine?... Jul 4 2008, 07:36 PM gregrobbins
A lightweight 550 replica doesn't need a mond... Jul 4 2008, 05:17 PM Jake Raby
[quote name='Paul Illick' post='1052582' date='J... Jul 4 2008, 06:42 PM Paul Illick
Oh no. "Aircooled Heaven", where you... Jul 4 2008, 08:19 PM Chris Hamilton
James, You should do it..
he biggest challenge wi... Jul 4 2008, 05:29 PM Jake Raby Do it... I can help you convert the clutch arrange... Jul 4 2008, 02:11 PM Cap'n Krusty My thoughts? I cannot tell a lie. I think it... Jul 4 2008, 02:24 PM james2 LOL, thanks!!! :D
My thoughts? I... Jul 4 2008, 03:13 PM Jake Raby
To smart asses like you, its Mr.
Old age hasn... Jul 4 2008, 09:03 PM Paul Illick Old enough to have seen it all, thank you, and no,... Jul 5 2008, 07:27 AM RJMII
So it's a capital "G" then?
It... Jul 5 2008, 12:31 PM Paul Illick
[quote name='Paul Illick' post='1052742' date='Ju... Jul 5 2008, 09:23 PM Jake Raby well since a T3 uses TI heads and TI heads won... Jul 5 2008, 02:33 PM grantsfo Oh so it is a T1. Thats even cooler! Damn mor... Jul 5 2008, 02:54 PM kwales With at turbo.
Strap a turbo on a dog and it will... Jul 5 2008, 08:40 PM kwales Paul,
It says it's a 2332cc turbo injected en... Jul 5 2008, 09:40 PM grantsfo
Paul,
It says it's a 2332cc turbo injected e... Jul 5 2008, 11:00 PM Chris Hamilton
For me it comes down to what is lightest package ... Jul 5 2008, 11:59 PM Paul Illick
Paul,
It says it's a 2332cc turbo injected e... Jul 6 2008, 09:53 AM Chris Hamilton I'm sorry, but I can't agree that a turbo ... Jul 5 2008, 09:55 PM kwales Turbo's and nitrous both boost output on an en... Jul 5 2008, 10:16 PM Jake Raby Any form of forced induction breeds efficiency.. W... Jul 5 2008, 11:08 PM RJMII
The last Turbo I built was 80X100 and made 283 ... Jul 6 2008, 12:46 AM jmill I've built 2 1914's. They're the best... Jul 5 2008, 11:35 PM Jake Raby The 1914 is my favorite TI.. 95% of the engines I ... Jul 5 2008, 11:44 PM jmill Here's the first one. It was in a 64 Kombi. ... Jul 5 2008, 11:57 PM jmill I say go for it. If folks can throw in V8's w... Jul 6 2008, 12:09 AM Jake Raby
James already has the DTM cooling system on his ... Jul 6 2008, 12:19 AM jmill Dooooooooooo it!
:popcorn: Jul 6 2008, 12:34 AM Jake Raby The DTM does a very good job coupled to LN ENginee... Jul 6 2008, 01:12 AM RJMII
The DTM does a very good job coupled to LN ENgine... Jul 6 2008, 11:32 AM ! Yeah, but geez that heat issue can be a bitch. Th... Jul 6 2008, 10:04 AM Paul Illick
Yeah, but geez that heat issue can be a bitch. T... Jul 6 2008, 11:29 AM Jake Raby The TI would certainly only be a viable solution i... Jul 6 2008, 11:27 AM !
The TI would certainly only be a viable solution ... Jul 6 2008, 11:58 AM james2 Nickies.? Think that would do Jake? Jul 6 2008, 08:20 PM Jake Raby
Nickies.? Think that would do Jake?
It would he... Jul 6 2008, 08:24 PM james2 Ah!, experienced parts. My favorite!
2382... Jul 6 2008, 08:54 PM Jake Raby Yep.. BUT the guys at Beck might buy the whole eng... Jul 6 2008, 09:01 PM |
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