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| james2 |
Jul 4 2008, 12:32 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 28-June 08 From: Georgia Member No.: 9,225 Region Association: None |
I have a 2332cc Type 1 engine. It dyno'd at 210 hp and 200 ft-lbs of torque on jake Raby's dyno.
Would I be viewed as a total hack if i put this in a 914? |
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| Jake Raby |
Jul 5 2008, 11:08 PM
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Engine Surgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,398 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
Any form of forced induction breeds efficiency.. Without boost its hard to get more than 100% VE from an engine thats aircooled with less than 11:1 CR, however I have been able to squeeze 122% from the 1500cc Land Speed engine that currently holds the ECTA record.
An engine that performs best without boost, typically won't have the optimum CR and combo for boost so doing a back to back comparison is difficult. The best back to back I have done is a stock 2.0 that made 88 HP N/A made 160 with less than 10 PSI boost with no other changes and non intercooled. All other engines I have boosted tend to make double their N/A output at 1 Bar boost. I have two Turbos on deck now, one is a twin plug 2332 TI with a dual ceramic ball bearing Turbo and the other is a single plug 2.1 L TIV using an 82 stroke and 91mm bore with a T2/T3 hybrid custom Turbo that is also dual ceramic ball bearing.. I expect both these low CR, mild cammed engines to make less than 140 HP N/A and both over 300 at 1 Bar boost. Both are made for low revving applications that need smooth power and little lag. The last Turbo I built was 80X100 and made 283 HP @ 10 PSI boost with 340 lb/ft of torque.. |
james2 VW Type 1 into 914 Jul 4 2008, 12:32 PM
grantsfo I'd love to see it. I wish more people would ... Jul 4 2008, 01:39 PM
james2 well, I know the type 4 is better engine, it has t... Jul 4 2008, 02:08 PM
Vacca Rabite No, I don't think that you would be a hack.
D... Jul 4 2008, 01:45 PM
Chris Hamilton The type I has FAR more research and development p... Jul 4 2008, 01:51 PM
grantsfo
The type I has FAR more research and development ... Jul 4 2008, 03:02 PM
Chris Hamilton
So run in fun class? The guys who AX buggies do... Jul 4 2008, 05:08 PM
dw914er
The type I has FAR more research and development... Jul 4 2008, 05:20 PM
dw914er
The type I has FAR more research and development... Jul 4 2008, 05:20 PM

grantsfo
Ive also seen a 9 second fiat with a T4
Does... Jul 5 2008, 12:49 PM

Chris Hamilton
[quote name='dw914er' post='1052613' date='Jul 4 ... Jul 5 2008, 01:18 PM


grantsfo
[quote name='dw914er' post='1052613' date='Jul 4... Jul 5 2008, 01:30 PM


SirAndy
How's this for a decent type I?
except, it s... Jul 5 2008, 02:07 PM


grantsfo
How's this for a decent type I?
except, it ... Jul 5 2008, 02:09 PM

dw914er
Ive also seen a 9 second fiat with a T4
Doe... Jul 5 2008, 04:59 PM
Dave_Darling So curious what is definition of a Porsche engine?... Jul 4 2008, 07:36 PM
Jake Raby James, You should do it..
The biggest challenge wi... Jul 4 2008, 01:58 PM
Paul Illick
The first production twin plug TIs are leaving He... Jul 4 2008, 03:16 PM

Jake Raby
The first production twin plug TIs are leaving H... Jul 4 2008, 05:11 PM

gregrobbins
A lightweight 550 replica doesn't need a mond... Jul 4 2008, 05:17 PM

Paul Illick
[quote name='Paul Illick' post='1052582' date='Ju... Jul 4 2008, 06:27 PM

Jake Raby
[quote name='Paul Illick' post='1052582' date='J... Jul 4 2008, 06:42 PM

Paul Illick
Oh no. "Aircooled Heaven", where you... Jul 4 2008, 08:19 PM
Chris Hamilton
James, You should do it..
he biggest challenge wi... Jul 4 2008, 05:29 PM
Jake Raby Do it... I can help you convert the clutch arrange... Jul 4 2008, 02:11 PM
Cap'n Krusty My thoughts? I cannot tell a lie. I think it... Jul 4 2008, 02:24 PM
james2 LOL, thanks!!! :D
My thoughts? I... Jul 4 2008, 03:13 PM
Jake Raby
To smart asses like you, its Mr.
Old age hasn... Jul 4 2008, 09:03 PM
Paul Illick Old enough to have seen it all, thank you, and no,... Jul 5 2008, 07:27 AM
RJMII
So it's a capital "G" then?
It... Jul 5 2008, 12:31 PM
Paul Illick
[quote name='Paul Illick' post='1052742' date='Ju... Jul 5 2008, 09:23 PM
Jake Raby well since a T3 uses TI heads and TI heads won... Jul 5 2008, 02:33 PM
grantsfo Oh so it is a T1. Thats even cooler! Damn mor... Jul 5 2008, 02:54 PM
kwales With at turbo.
Strap a turbo on a dog and it will... Jul 5 2008, 08:40 PM
kwales Paul,
It says it's a 2332cc turbo injected en... Jul 5 2008, 09:40 PM
grantsfo
Paul,
It says it's a 2332cc turbo injected e... Jul 5 2008, 11:00 PM

Chris Hamilton
For me it comes down to what is lightest package ... Jul 5 2008, 11:59 PM
Paul Illick
Paul,
It says it's a 2332cc turbo injected e... Jul 6 2008, 09:53 AM
Chris Hamilton I'm sorry, but I can't agree that a turbo ... Jul 5 2008, 09:55 PM
kwales Turbo's and nitrous both boost output on an en... Jul 5 2008, 10:16 PM
RJMII
The last Turbo I built was 80X100 and made 283 ... Jul 6 2008, 12:46 AM
jmill I've built 2 1914's. They're the best... Jul 5 2008, 11:35 PM
Jake Raby The 1914 is my favorite TI.. 95% of the engines I ... Jul 5 2008, 11:44 PM
jmill Here's the first one. It was in a 64 Kombi. ... Jul 5 2008, 11:57 PM
jmill I say go for it. If folks can throw in V8's w... Jul 6 2008, 12:09 AM
Jake Raby
James already has the DTM cooling system on his ... Jul 6 2008, 12:19 AM
jmill Dooooooooooo it!
:popcorn: Jul 6 2008, 12:34 AM
Jake Raby The DTM does a very good job coupled to LN ENginee... Jul 6 2008, 01:12 AM
RJMII
The DTM does a very good job coupled to LN ENgine... Jul 6 2008, 11:32 AM
! Yeah, but geez that heat issue can be a bitch. Th... Jul 6 2008, 10:04 AM
Paul Illick
Yeah, but geez that heat issue can be a bitch. T... Jul 6 2008, 11:29 AM
Jake Raby The TI would certainly only be a viable solution i... Jul 6 2008, 11:27 AM
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The TI would certainly only be a viable solution ... Jul 6 2008, 11:58 AM
james2 Nickies.? Think that would do Jake? Jul 6 2008, 08:20 PM
Jake Raby
Nickies.? Think that would do Jake?
It would he... Jul 6 2008, 08:24 PM
james2 Ah!, experienced parts. My favorite!
2382... Jul 6 2008, 08:54 PM
Jake Raby Yep.. BUT the guys at Beck might buy the whole eng... Jul 6 2008, 09:01 PM![]() ![]() |
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