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> Painting inside the longs, access through the hell hole
ahdoman
post Sep 2 2008, 10:16 PM
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I did an extensive search to no avail...I thought I remember someone mentioning a way to be able to spray paint (POR 15 or other rust treatment) inside the longs just by making a small access hole? I need to close up my hell hole repair but before I do I would like to spray rust treatment into the long. Thankfully the long is not rusted but I can see surface rust down in there. Anybody got any suggestions? A list of parts to do that would be great!
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post Sep 4 2008, 07:31 AM
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My post from '05

OK, my secret technique revealed!

What we do in my restoration shop is clean, treat/arrest the corrosion, repair any corrosion that involves very heavy pitting or perforation, treat with phosphoric acid wash, rinse, dry, and paint. We use a undercoating kit that can be purchased at JC Whitney, Eastwood, and other auto supply houses. We treat the entire car, that is all the dead air spaces, boxed support members, etc.

First remove the control cables, and shift mechanism, as well as the pedal cluster, and most of the interior. Mask off the wiring harness with plastic and masking tape. Clean out the tunnel with compressed air and a shop vac. Manually scrape whatever you can reach with wire brushes, stainless toothbrushes, etc. Next you need very hot water and cheap automatic dishwashing detergent (like cascade). You don't want to get this on finished surfaces, as the trisoduim phosphate can dull painted surfaces. Mix up hot water with the detergent, and spray in into the tunnel. With the undercoating kit you get spray wands and different nozzles to blast in the corners, etc. Again, use the shop vac to remove the water. Next rinse with clean warm water, and clean this up. Blow dry with compressed air and the undercoating wands and nozzles. Check out the cleaning job with a light and a inspection mirror, make sure everything is nice and clean. Let it dry for a few days. At this point a little flash rust isn't going to hurt anything. Now it gets more fun! You can use Ospho, Oxysolve, any corrosion treatment with phosphoric acid that leaves a phosphate coating. You mix up the acid as directed, and after you've donned your safety goggles, respirator, and rubber gloves, you spray the area with the acid mixture. Most of them require liberal dousing, and you want to keep it wet for several minutes, longer if you've got more serious corrosion. Next you rinse the acid off with water, and clean it up. Blow it dry. Let it sit for a few days. Last you can use the same undercoating kit to blast your favorite corrosion paint over the treated areas.

This is alot of work, and makes a big mess, but it's the best thing you can do to mitigate corrosion. It's also a good thing to do if you've welded on structural supports like the GT stiffening kit, Mayeur kit, etc. If you don't treat the backside of a panel that you've welded, it will rust.
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ahdoman   Painting inside the longs   Sep 2 2008, 10:16 PM
Rusty   There is an oval access hole from inside the passe...   Sep 2 2008, 10:21 PM
2-OH!   Make a swab using a long piece of wire and a wad o...   Sep 2 2008, 10:42 PM
craig downs   The thread is somewhere I saw it a couple of month...   Sep 3 2008, 03:41 AM
ahdoman   Thanks Craig. That's what I'm looking for....   Sep 3 2008, 09:00 AM
r_towle   go to Eastwood, they have all the cool wands. Ric...   Sep 3 2008, 01:01 PM
SirAndy   (POR 15 or other rust treatment) POR 15 is *not...   Sep 3 2008, 01:18 PM
SirAndy   more on that here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/i...   Sep 3 2008, 01:22 PM
SirAndy   Looks like "Dinol cavity wax" is what th...   Sep 3 2008, 01:24 PM
r_towle   Eric, partsman, had ziebart rust proofing on his c...   Sep 3 2008, 01:43 PM
Rusty   Years ago, some jackass wrote a Pelican article th...   Sep 3 2008, 02:13 PM
sww914   Modern VW's are built with so much wax in the ...   Sep 3 2008, 04:10 PM
Joe Owensby   Eastwood sells just what you need. They have a kit...   Sep 3 2008, 06:06 PM
Wes V   Steve; I've seen the spray "wands" ...   Sep 3 2008, 07:11 PM
ahdoman   WOW! Thanks for all the good replies everybody...   Sep 3 2008, 11:20 PM
shoguneagle   Hi, I may be the one your are referring to painti...   Sep 3 2008, 11:30 PM
ahdoman   Hey Steve - good info but what I am looking for is...   Sep 3 2008, 11:42 PM
9146986   My post from '05 OK, my secret technique reve...   Sep 4 2008, 07:31 AM
Bartlett 914   My post from '05 OK, my secret technique rev...   Sep 4 2008, 10:25 AM
dflesburg   It was hot as hell here yesterday, my daughters ca...   Sep 4 2008, 10:44 AM
charliew   All of the above is good info. Remember the ospho ...   Sep 4 2008, 10:49 AM
southernmost914   This is the stuff! I have used this for over 1...   Sep 5 2008, 02:13 PM
shoguneagle   Hey, Perry--- I did watch all your historic threa...   Sep 5 2008, 09:01 PM


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