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[VRROOMM1]

i have a 70 black car came from so cal i have paperwork from day one but not from the dealer how can i find out the info on the car it is all original motor and trans 67 tho on odom if you can help thanks the porsche dealer in town cant find info on it. and porsche has no info any more.

[Gustl]

wow - that's absolutely different from the European way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I know it for sure that neither in Germany nor in Austria you get engine or/and tranny number on the COA when you didn't tell them what you have (meaning: the correct ones). These are public rules for getting the COA.
Once I asked them why ... and the answer was: if Porsche tells you all the numbers, one might re-number another engine / tranny with the original numbers to get a "matching numbers car" - even if it's not. And this situation would increase the car's resale price under criminal aspects.

sounded logic for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

[zambezi]

wow - that's absolutely different from the European way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I know it for sure that neither in Germany nor in Austria you get engine or/and tranny number on the COA when you didn't tell them what you have (meaning: the correct ones). These are public rules for getting the COA.
Once I asked them why ... and the answer was: if Porsche tells you all the numbers, one might re-number another engine / tranny with the original numbers to get a "matching numbers car" - even if it's not. And this situation would increase the car's resale price under criminal aspects.

sounded logic for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Sound like the same logic with your system. If you tell them what you have in the car presently and they write down the numbers on a certificate stating those numbers are what the car should have then you have just dictated to the world what is correct and that seems more like fraud than our way here in the U.S. It is much harder to fake a correct numbered car than it is to just type any numbers on a certificate? Maybe I'm wrong in thinking this way but all I know is how it has worked for my last two COA's. Oh and my boss has had it done on 3 of his 356's and it was the same way also

[Gustl]

Sound like the same logic with your system. If you tell them what you have in the car presently and they write down the numbers on a certificate stating those numbers are what the car should have then you have just dictated to the world what is correct and that seems more like fraud than our way here in the U.S. It is much harder to fake a correct numbered car than it is to just type any numbers on a certificate? Maybe I'm wrong in thinking this way but all I know is how it has worked for my last two COA's. Oh and my boss has had it done on 3 of his 356's and it was the same way also

I'm afraid you didn't understand what I tried to say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

in Europe you have to tell them VIN, engine number, tranny number and colour code from your car (what's actually on your car) when you ask for the COA
then the make the COA - but they only write down the numbers, if they match the original numbers

so:
if you get a COA with all the numbers of your car, then you know that you have a matching numbers car
if you get a COA without engine number, you know that your engine isn't the original one
if you get a COA without tranny number, you know that your tranny isn't the original one

of course, if you only tell them the VIN, they don't write down the other numbers

understand?

[zambezi]

I'm afraid you didn't understand what I tried to say (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

in Europe you have to tell them VIN, engine number, tranny number and colour code from your car (what's actually on your car) when you ask for the COA
then the make the COA - but they only write down the numbers, if they match the original numbers

so:
if you get a COA with all the numbers of your car, then you know that you have a matching numbers car
if you get a COA without engine number, you know that your engine isn't the original one
if you get a COA without tranny number, you know that your tranny isn't the original one

of course, if you only tell them the VIN, they don't write down the other numbers

understand?
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O.K. now I get it. But for research purposes it is nice that they give you the info they have on file so you can start to look for the matching engine or trans. It would be impossible to do without that info. I guess it is based on the honor system that you will use the info to try and verify your car and locate the original stuff but not try and duplicate the numbers on a blank case to fraud others in thinking everything is matching numbers. So if you can get the info like here in the U.S. it is definitely worth doing.
JIM