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> Off Topic!, Let the gas companys burn in HELL
justdrive914
post Sep 12 2008, 10:01 PM
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WTF gas here in asheville NC is up to 5.10 a gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something must be done
914's get good mileage we are tryin here!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)

no more of this for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

how did it come to this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Sep 13 2008, 09:55 PM
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Yes, sandbox for sure.

Was that article an op-ed piece? It has a definite partisan feel to it that sounds pretty silly in retrospect, but it is always interesting how people can see the same thing and have totally different interpretations.

In any case the article doesn't contradict what I said. Carter stated that we Americans are addicted to oil and we needed to make fundamental changes. That's a fact. Folks didn't like that idea, they preferred "don't worry, be happy" and "don't think, buy!" consumerism. No question about that. So that's the road we've gone down, nothing really changed, and the country's energy independence has deteriorated a bit more in every subsequent administration. Another fact.

To illustrate the "don't worry, be happy" aspect, do you know a real irony? Remember the Bush-Gore debates in 2000? One of the questions was how the candidates were going to deal with the huge ongoing budget surpluses. Seriously, a trillion dollars of surplus by 2010. And in the last eight years instead of a surplus we've added two trillion dollars to the national debt. Like falling off a log. So those surpluses didn't end up being such a big problem after all, did they?

It is what it is, so learn to love it. Or do something about it.

Sandbox, please.
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justdrive914   Off Topic!   Sep 12 2008, 10:01 PM
rick 918-S   Drill, drill, drill. If we had a pipe line from Al...   Sep 12 2008, 10:24 PM
jimtab   Drill, drill, drill. If we had a pipe line from A...   Sep 13 2008, 12:25 AM
rick 918-S   Drill, drill, drill. If we had a pipe line from ...   Sep 13 2008, 10:01 PM
LarryR   [quote name='jimtab' post='1078851' date='Sep 12 ...   Sep 13 2008, 10:14 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='jimtab' post='1078851' date='Sep 12...   Sep 13 2008, 10:28 PM
LarryR   [quote name='LarryR' post='1079100' date='Sep 13 ...   Sep 13 2008, 10:34 PM
PRS914-6   how did it come to this? :confused: That's ...   Sep 12 2008, 10:27 PM
LarryR   how did it come to this? :confused: That's...   Sep 12 2008, 10:46 PM
dw914er   how did it come to this? :confused: That's...   Sep 13 2008, 08:02 PM
dbgriffith75   I blame the government... and taxes... and alcoh...   Sep 12 2008, 10:37 PM
DBCooper   Screw that, I own a lot of stock in Exxon so I hav...   Sep 12 2008, 10:55 PM
Garold Shaffer   Um, Hurricanes Just watched the news tonight sayi...   Sep 12 2008, 11:00 PM
justdrive914   Um, Hurricanes Just watched the news tonight say...   Sep 13 2008, 07:03 AM
dbgriffith75   Oh, and something I forgot to add into my previous...   Sep 13 2008, 12:01 AM
justdrive914   Oh, and something I forgot to add into my previou...   Sep 13 2008, 03:22 PM
Sleepin   ...and yet the State of Colorado is going to try t...   Sep 13 2008, 12:23 AM
iamchappy   FYI- we get about 80% of our oil from Canada and M...   Sep 13 2008, 12:34 AM
swl   get used to guys - it is simply a matter of supply...   Sep 13 2008, 06:44 AM
abbott295   Right now it's the refineries that are shut do...   Sep 13 2008, 08:06 AM
lotus_65   capitalism is federally managed in an odd way to m...   Sep 13 2008, 01:07 PM
justdrive914   capitalism is federally managed in an odd way to ...   Sep 13 2008, 03:23 PM
swl   capitalism is federally managed in an odd way to ...   Sep 13 2008, 03:50 PM
RoadGlue   What country is this? Richest in the world Larges...   Sep 14 2008, 12:36 AM
swl   [quote name='swl' post='1078960' date='Sep 13 200...   Sep 14 2008, 12:21 PM
Gene   the best option isn't natural gas. It is elect...   Sep 14 2008, 02:05 PM
r_towle   What was the reason given for developing the Depar...   Sep 13 2008, 06:39 PM
lotus_65   What was the reason given for developing the Depa...   Sep 13 2008, 08:23 PM
DBCooper   Carter gave a speech outlining the hard choices we...   Sep 13 2008, 08:03 PM
lotus_65   Carter gave a speech outlining the hard choices w...   Sep 13 2008, 08:33 PM
So.Cal.914   WTF gas here in asheville NC is up to 5.10 a gall...   Sep 13 2008, 08:31 PM
wbergtho   This thread should probably be in the sandbox beca...   Sep 13 2008, 09:17 PM
DBCooper   Yes, sandbox for sure. Was that article an op-ed ...   Sep 13 2008, 09:55 PM
wbergtho   As Ed McMan once said..."You are correct s...   Sep 14 2008, 02:53 AM
wbergtho   BTW, If all the liberal restrictions were removed,...   Sep 14 2008, 02:56 AM
abbott295   If you are getting your natural gas from wells, it...   Sep 14 2008, 07:23 AM
rhodyguy   1 ?. why is this in the garage? admin cleanup asap...   Sep 14 2008, 08:05 AM
justdrive914   Yeah, sorry I put this in the garage! I though...   Sep 14 2008, 08:17 AM
rhodyguy   ok. but to keep it at the top...if they were to gr...   Sep 14 2008, 08:44 AM
brant   drilling more does not solve the problem it only p...   Sep 14 2008, 08:49 AM
zymurgist   drilling, postpones the problem so that all of yo...   Sep 14 2008, 09:17 AM
swl   the other problem with electric is that it doesn...   Sep 14 2008, 04:45 PM
Gene   the other problem with electric is that it doesn...   Sep 14 2008, 05:03 PM


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