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> SS Brake Hose... Racing vs DOT
Slick914
post Sep 28 2008, 07:51 PM
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What's the difference between the racing SS brake hoses and the street ones?

My car has the racing ones on right now, but I do have the street versions on standby.
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post Sep 30 2008, 11:28 PM
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Sorry, but how is that relevant? You've deformed one with side cutters, but how would that ever happen in automotive use? No automotive hose that is the correct length will be put into a position that it can be flexed to the point that it "kinks" the way you indicate. If it's possible to do that with the hoses on your car it means they're too short, and that would be misuse. You cut the other with a high speed wheel, the way it should be cut. I really don't understand the comparison or your point.

If you have the correct length brake hose it should never be put into the position where it can be extended so much that it's stressed. Certainly never stressed longitudinally as much as the NHTSA tensile test. The only thing a correct length hose should ever see in automotive use is movement, and NHTSA "whip" test is intended to be an extreme case of exactly that. Both braided stainless hoses and standard rubber hoses pass that test.

Do you know of any formal test data that indicates that teflon hose, covered or not, has flex performance that's inferior to rubber? If so, how much? That would be relevant.

By the way, the NHTSA test mentioned above was released in April of this year, 2008. So it's a brand new standard. And further the NHTSA database (it's on their website) shows no investigations of any brake hoses from failures in use. IE no complaints. Zero. So if you've had a catastrophic brake failure I'd request that you do every automotive enthusiast a favor and register that with the NHSTB so nobody innocent dies. Their complaint number is (888) 327-4236.
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Slick914   SS Brake Hose... Racing vs DOT   Sep 28 2008, 07:51 PM
southernmost914   The street set has gone through the D.O.T. ,testin...   Sep 28 2008, 09:03 PM
GeorgeRud   Though you get a firmer pedal, keep an eye on the ...   Sep 28 2008, 09:28 PM
auerbach   This is a question for Chris or Ed at Tangerine Ra...   Sep 28 2008, 10:57 PM
sean_v8_914   Steve is correct. the Teflon lined ones do not deg...   Sep 29 2008, 12:03 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Whichever of the 2 you choose, it's wise to re...   Sep 29 2008, 12:26 AM
DBCooper   Whichever of the 2 you choose, it's wise to r...   Sep 29 2008, 07:27 AM
Cap'n Krusty   The DOT is concerned with "now", not the...   Sep 29 2008, 09:19 AM
DBCooper   The DOT is concerned with "now", not th...   Sep 29 2008, 11:02 AM
URY914   I had a SS hose blow out once . Never has a stock ...   Sep 29 2008, 09:50 AM
shoguneagle   Very good info in this thread. I have DOT approve...   Sep 29 2008, 10:04 AM
jmill   I worked in the aircraft industry for years and I ...   Sep 29 2008, 12:47 PM
DBCooper   I don't get it. If that hose is as deadly as ...   Sep 29 2008, 09:00 PM
GeorgeRud   I don't think that many racers were too concer...   Sep 29 2008, 09:53 PM
DBCooper   Fair enough and I have no doubt about that, but th...   Sep 29 2008, 10:00 PM
jmill   The SS hose is a great product. There's only ...   Sep 30 2008, 09:21 AM
So.Cal.914   For sake of discussion, say you do have a failure ...   Sep 30 2008, 09:31 AM
jd74914   That should be true since they will look at ways t...   Sep 30 2008, 10:59 AM
Mark Henry   :agree: with the cap'n, I too have seen the f...   Sep 30 2008, 11:18 AM
andys   I don't know the protocol for how the DOT proc...   Sep 30 2008, 11:37 AM
DBCooper   I apologize for beating this to death, but here we...   Sep 30 2008, 01:39 PM
Spoke   I had braided hoses on the front of my car when I ...   Sep 30 2008, 02:46 PM
jmill   With performance motorcycles you'll notice tha...   Sep 30 2008, 03:13 PM
jmill   One other thought. The front brake reservoir is a...   Sep 30 2008, 03:28 PM
So.Cal.914   One other thought. The front brake reservoir is ...   Sep 30 2008, 04:28 PM
jmill   You got me there. :D BTW - Your avitar is outs...   Sep 30 2008, 10:02 PM
Wilhelm   So..................... Does anyone make a SS cove...   Sep 30 2008, 10:54 PM
DBCooper   Sorry, but how is that relevant? You've defor...   Sep 30 2008, 11:28 PM
jmill   The purpose of the picture was to show that the ho...   Oct 1 2008, 10:14 PM
Slick914   Didn't mean to bring up a sore subject. :huh:...   Oct 1 2008, 10:21 PM
sean_v8_914   I did not know/think about many of these valid poi...   Oct 1 2008, 10:59 PM
DBCooper   First off I'm not trying to be argumentative. ...   Oct 2 2008, 12:57 PM
Mark Henry   First off I'm not trying to be argumentative....   Oct 2 2008, 02:11 PM
SirAndy   just you've had the advice of a few long term...   Oct 2 2008, 03:16 PM
jmill   The steel braid isn't holding the hose in that...   Oct 2 2008, 03:20 PM
DBCooper   Both types of hose are TUV certified. If you want...   Oct 2 2008, 03:32 PM
SirAndy   Both types of hose are TUV certified. I've s...   Oct 2 2008, 04:34 PM
DBCooper   [quote name='DBCooper' post='1086756' date='Oct 2...   Oct 3 2008, 04:14 PM
ztbell   [quote name='DBCooper' post='1086756' date='Oct ...   Oct 4 2008, 09:00 AM
ztbell   :blowup: Stay with the D.O.T. approved SS lines....   Oct 2 2008, 04:47 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears...   Oct 2 2008, 07:56 PM
southernmost914   Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it appear...   Oct 3 2008, 05:37 AM
hcdmueller   Both types of hose are TUV certified. I've ...   Oct 3 2008, 05:18 AM
Mark Henry   :deadhorse:   Oct 3 2008, 04:23 PM
DBCooper   :deadhorse: :deadhorse:   Oct 3 2008, 06:00 PM
Mark Henry   Geeezzeeee...you guys follow the link.... http://...   Oct 4 2008, 09:12 AM
swl   Geeezzeeee...you guys follow the link.... http:/...   Oct 4 2008, 09:32 AM


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