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911 surpasses 914 as electric porsche of choice, thanks to RUF |
brer |
Oct 21 2008, 10:19 AM
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jmill |
Oct 22 2008, 08:32 AM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If you only drive 2 miles to work you wouldn't need the pricey batteries. You could go LA for cheap. But you are correct that right now the lithium battery pricing just doesn't work out. It's a catch 22. You need mass production to lower prices but at the current price there isn't the demand for mass production. when gas prices go through the roof again it'll look more attractive. It's only a matter of time. Someone will then figure out how to make them cheaper. You'll see tons of conversion kits out there. Demand will go up and the bottom will drop out of the prices. I'll wait until then before I toss in my money.
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LarryR |
Oct 22 2008, 08:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 15-March 07 From: E. Bay Area, N. California Member No.: 7,604 |
If you only drive 2 miles to work you wouldn't need the pricey batteries. You could go LA for cheap. But you are correct that right now the lithium battery pricing just doesn't work out. It's a catch 22. You need mass production to lower prices but at the current price there isn't the demand for mass production. when gas prices go through the roof again it'll look more attractive. It's only a matter of time. Someone will then figure out how to make them cheaper. You'll see tons of conversion kits out there. Demand will go up and the bottom will drop out of the prices. I'll wait until then before I toss in my money. There are a lot of efforts going on out there. Mercedes, GM, Tesla and a handful of other's. Not forgetting the the plug in prius either. They will get there. A good alternative until they do is the new clean diesel jetta. Thats what I bought a couple months ago. You get the whole car for the price of a battery pack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) it has been getting me an overall average of 38.5 mpg and 45 mpg on long hwy trips. Goes 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. Has enough torque to light the tires if you want... did I mention 24190 gets you one fully loaded ... and has a 1300 federal tax credit for this year... Ok end plug for clean diesel. Seriously though, I think hybrids and clean diesel are a nice intermediate step to full electric. This will give time to ramp up not only battery but charging capabilities. A whole lot of people would need to put solar panels or wind power at their houses to suppliment the demand on the grid if a large percentage of people were charging their cars every night. BTW VW is supposed to come out with a 72 mpg TDI hybrid next year. So nice small steps to full electric. All of the hybrids could drive the mass production of batteries. |
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