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> Front BMW brakes locking front wheels all the time, why...please guys can i have your advice?
budman5201
post Nov 13 2008, 09:07 PM
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I recently bought new rear calipers, redid the front BMW brakes up front and installed HAWK race pads up front. The braking has significantly improved! YES! but now i have one dilema......The front brakes lock up EASILY and the rears never at all..........I wish i could make all them lock up in emergency situations or at least more Braking in the rear.


Did i just significantly make the front brakes better by installing new race pads and BMW brakes? Can i adjust anything with the stock rear system to get more pressure to the back so i dont lock up the front VERY EASILY???

thanks guys i appreciate your help.....

Stock 1.7 liter GOING SUBARU 2.5 200 hp N/A soon!! Trying to make everything else PERFECT before i get my third Subaru done.....The braking was lacking on my last conversion......

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post Nov 13 2008, 11:12 PM
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Hi , I was wondering if any of you more experienced guys have tryed using the " proportioning " valve from the 944 ( turbo ?? ) setup which was mounted on the master cylinder BEFORE the line or is the thing I am referencing something else entirely??? I've read all about the pitfalls of the Tee fiting , heck I even got some with the same ideaology as others in the replacing with part , haven't done it yet , probably won't as I understand more of what the 914 prop. valve really does , slick as hell those Germans, looking to do 911 M rear , maybe A front or if I get the courage up to refurb the S set I have , like I stated just curious if the 944 part was a possibility .

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post Nov 13 2008, 11:32 PM
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okay so....get hawk pads for the rear, then adjust rear proportioning valve? i love my brakes, just want them a little more in rear. i havent bought hawk pads for the rear yet, but when i do how many turns would i have to turn incrementally each time to slowly get to where i want to in the rear brakes. I turned a half turn then 3/4 turn OUT and still lock the fronts.......guess i am still WAY over biased in the front since i have correct venting (checked perfect) with stock cheap pads in the rear......


i dont do any racing, or plan on it. Just some spirted driving. Mainly looking for emergency stopping power only when i need it. I dont overwork my brakes on a constant basis, just LOVE knowing that they are perfect when i need them.......

This is my STARBUCKS run car or short trip car...no high speed canyon driving....

And wow, i never knew the difference HAWKS pads can make....amazing!


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QUOTE(budman5201 @ Nov 13 2008, 10:32 PM) *

okay so....get hawk pads for the rear, then adjust rear proportioning valve? i love my brakes, just want them a little more in rear. i havent bought hawk pads for the rear yet, but when i do how many turns would i have to turn incrementally each time to slowly get to where i want to in the rear brakes. I turned a half turn then 3/4 turn OUT and still lock the fronts.......guess i am still WAY over biased in the front since i have correct venting (checked perfect) with stock cheap pads in the rear......


i dont do any racing, or plan on it. Just some spirted driving. Mainly looking for emergency stopping power only when i need it. I dont overwork my brakes on a constant basis, just LOVE knowing that they are perfect when i need them.......

This is my STARBUCKS run car or short trip car...no high speed canyon driving....

And wow, i never knew the difference HAWKS pads can make....amazing!


just bought rs-4 s for the rear .....lets see how much better they will do than stock!


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post Nov 14 2008, 01:06 AM
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blue, black, or orange?


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QUOTE(budman5201 @ Nov 13 2008, 10:32 PM) *

okay so....get hawk pads for the rear, then adjust rear proportioning valve? i love my brakes, just want them a little more in rear. i havent bought hawk pads for the rear yet, but when i do how many turns would i have to turn incrementally each time to slowly get to where i want to in the rear brakes. I turned a half turn then 3/4 turn OUT and still lock the fronts.......guess i am still WAY over biased in the front since i have correct venting (checked perfect) with stock cheap pads in the rear......


i dont do any racing, or plan on it. Just some spirted driving. Mainly looking for emergency stopping power only when i need it. I dont overwork my brakes on a constant basis, just LOVE knowing that they are perfect when i need them.......

This is my STARBUCKS run car or short trip car...no high speed canyon driving....

And wow, i never knew the difference HAWKS pads can make....amazing!


just bought rs-4 s for the rear .....lets see how much better they will do than stock!

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budman5201   Front BMW brakes locking front wheels all the time   Nov 13 2008, 09:07 PM
Mike Gilbert   i would try adjusting the rear brake proportional ...   Nov 13 2008, 10:06 PM
Eric_Shea   Sorry Mike, the "remove the proportioning val...   Nov 13 2008, 10:26 PM
ConeDodger   As much as anyone would hate to admit it :D , I h...   Nov 13 2008, 10:38 PM
markb   :agree: Listen to Eric, he knows what he's tal...   Nov 13 2008, 10:43 PM
jaxdream   Hi , I was wondering if any of you more experience...   Nov 13 2008, 11:12 PM
budman5201   okay so....get hawk pads for the rear, then adjust...   Nov 13 2008, 11:32 PM
budman5201   okay so....get hawk pads for the rear, then adjus...   Nov 13 2008, 11:57 PM
Dr. Roger   blue, black, or orange? okay so....get hawk pa...   Nov 14 2008, 01:06 AM
Brett W   Toss the stock rear calipers and put the stock fro...   Nov 14 2008, 08:22 AM
Cap'n Krusty   Toss the stock rear calipers and put the stock fr...   Nov 14 2008, 09:43 AM
Root_Werks   This is some good reading. I need to go through m...   Nov 14 2008, 09:43 AM
Eric_Shea   Couple things in there I would call dumb... espe...   Nov 14 2008, 10:24 AM
Solo914   Couple things in there I would call dumb... esp...   Nov 14 2008, 10:51 AM
Eric_Shea   I want to clarify this comment. The rear valve ...   Nov 14 2008, 11:02 AM
Eric_Shea   Kyle, Do you have a firm pedal issue? If so I wo...   Nov 14 2008, 11:13 AM
Solo914   Eric, I would say that I have a firmer pedal than...   Nov 14 2008, 11:27 AM
davesprinkle   Kyle, Do you have a firm pedal issue? If so I w...   Nov 14 2008, 11:59 AM
budman5201   OKay guys I will ring back into here next week whe...   Nov 14 2008, 03:18 PM
budman5201   OKay guys I will ring back into here next week wh...   Nov 20 2008, 03:16 PM
horizontally-opposed   Too many variables left out of the mix. The foll...   Nov 14 2008, 11:28 AM
Eric_Shea   Yup... that was me. :clown: I knew someone was g...   Nov 14 2008, 11:36 AM
horizontally-opposed   I used to recommend it but that was before... B...   Nov 14 2008, 11:40 AM
Eric_Shea   I just ordered one from Uncle Chris Foley. I li...   Nov 14 2008, 11:39 AM
Eric_Shea   Go write something... :D   Nov 14 2008, 11:43 AM
Racer Chris   The reason for matching your pads front to rear is...   Nov 21 2008, 12:09 AM
Dave_Darling   Remember, though: Brakes stop the wheels. Tires ...   Nov 21 2008, 12:50 AM
Eric_Shea   Except he has BMW calipers now with about 40% mo...   Nov 21 2008, 10:49 AM
ConeDodger   Except he has BMW calipers now with about 40% m...   Nov 21 2008, 11:19 AM
davesprinkle   ... he has BMW calipers now with about 40% more ...   Nov 22 2008, 01:23 PM
Eric_Shea   I don't know jack but... it sure is fun preten...   Nov 21 2008, 02:18 PM
ConeDodger   I don't know jack but... it sure is fun prete...   Nov 21 2008, 02:26 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I don't know jack but... it sure is fun prete...   Nov 21 2008, 02:34 PM
horizontally-opposed   I don't know jack but... it sure is fun pret...   Nov 21 2008, 04:33 PM
Dave_Darling   Never really thought about this before, but: 1. ...   Nov 24 2008, 09:57 AM
Eric_Shea   TIP: Sisters. (one mother-in-law) Jon Von B. Y...   Nov 21 2008, 02:50 PM
ericread   TIP: Sisters. (one mother-in-law) Jon Von B. ...   Nov 24 2008, 08:47 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Not yet... getting it started though. Just got my ...   Nov 21 2008, 02:59 PM
budman5201   WOO HOO!!! The verdict is in! My ...   Nov 22 2008, 02:19 PM
Eric_Shea   Both but, I'd say the pad area is causing th...   Nov 22 2008, 05:22 PM
budman5201   Both but, I'd say the pad area is causing t...   Nov 24 2008, 01:28 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I'm thinking of doing a Portofield group buy t...   Nov 24 2008, 01:31 AM
Eric_Shea   It would give you a firmer pedal feel. You now ...   Nov 24 2008, 08:40 AM
Eric_Shea   Sorry Dave... #2 and #4 cancel each other out.   Nov 24 2008, 10:48 AM
westgl   Hey Eric, Let me say, I wish I would have read th...   Nov 27 2008, 01:27 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Just because I don't know if Eric is checking ...   Nov 27 2008, 01:41 PM
westgl   This is my setup, My car is street car mainly but...   Nov 27 2008, 06:24 PM
yeahmag   Does "Alan Johnson Porsche" have a site?...   Nov 27 2008, 05:53 PM
Eric_Shea   Aaron, Hope this works: http://www.ajusa.com/bro...   Nov 27 2008, 09:56 PM
r_towle   I am curious why the original poster has not chose...   Nov 27 2008, 11:00 PM
Eric_Shea   If anyone else has this problem try sourcing ear...   Nov 28 2008, 01:25 PM
budman5201   If anyone else has this problem try sourcing ea...   Nov 28 2008, 01:53 PM
Eric_Shea   Yup... looks like the early 911 ones are hard to f...   Nov 28 2008, 11:02 PM
Dr Evil   After conferring with Eric on this, I wanted to po...   Dec 8 2008, 09:14 PM
Eric_Shea   If you don't mind... I'm going to try to f...   Dec 8 2008, 09:23 PM
Eric_Shea   Abso-friggen-lutely. We all use to spout the wi...   Dec 8 2008, 09:33 PM
anderssj   Eric, thanks for posting this--it's importan...   Dec 9 2008, 11:32 AM
Joe Ricard   I never heard of Porterfields identified by colors...   Dec 9 2008, 06:22 AM


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