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> OT: Gas mileage vs. emissions, tree hugger alert
yeahmag
post Nov 17 2008, 12:24 PM
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OK. I admit it... I dig green technology. Well I dig all technology, but I digress...

I'm curious how emissions vs. gas mileage balance out. For example:

My '88 FJ62 gets about 12 MPG on a good day, but has F.I., Catalytic Converters, and all that good stuff. My 914 gets over 2X that, but has no emissions equipment at all. I'm curious at where the tipping point is:

2 stroke scooter vs. compact car
4 stroke scooter vs. compact car
etc...

I'm even considering trying to build a junkyard/STF electric motorcycle. I'm poor, but have plenty of time and creativity!

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post Nov 18 2008, 10:52 AM
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Green. I get it. But, I am confused.
I don't understand why hybrids get about 50mpg or less at this point in time.

The new Subaru diesel Legacy claims 60+ mpg in Europe trim.
My aunts car (skoda) gets about 45 mpg on diesel and I think it is 10 years old.
If I put a suby diesel in a 914, it should see about 70mpg with an effective range of almost 1000 miles per tank or at $4 a gallon for Diesel, .07 a mile.


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post Nov 18 2008, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(effutuo101 @ Nov 18 2008, 11:52 AM) *

Green. I get it. But, I am confused.
I don't understand why hybrids get about 50mpg or less at this point in time.

The new Subaru diesel Legacy claims 60+ mpg in Europe trim.
My aunts car (skoda) gets about 45 mpg on diesel and I think it is 10 years old.
If I put a suby diesel in a 914, it should see about 70mpg with an effective range of almost 1000 miles per tank or at $4 a gallon for Diesel, .07 a mile.

While it may be true that you could possibly get 70 mpg from a subaru diesel in a 914, your math is wrong.

Factor in the cost of the motor (10k at least) and the conversion (another 5k) and your price per mile is not so attractive.

Go get a VW diesel golf/jetta/beetle.
They all get 45 mpg and they currently (used) cost less that the subaru motor would cost.

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yeahmag   OT: Gas mileage vs. emissions   Nov 17 2008, 12:24 PM
orange914   depending on what your vehicle needs are: efficie...   Nov 17 2008, 07:04 PM
scotty   Carbon In = Carbon Out so better fuel economy = le...   Nov 17 2008, 07:36 PM
Vacca Rabite   After driving behind a pack of them (in my wife...   Nov 17 2008, 07:37 PM
Brett W   Get a Honda. They are cheap enough that you can...   Nov 18 2008, 09:25 AM
effutuo101   Green. I get it. But, I am confused. I don't u...   Nov 18 2008, 10:52 AM
r_towle   Green. I get it. But, I am confused. I don't ...   Nov 18 2008, 11:19 AM
yeahmag   Back to the topic... What I'm really intereste...   Nov 18 2008, 12:44 PM
r_towle   Back to the topic... What I'm really interest...   Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM
Porcharu   Back to the topic... What I'm really interest...   Nov 18 2008, 11:30 PM
yeahmag   Good points... I use to always talk about life c...   Nov 18 2008, 01:00 PM
Dave_Darling   What the moped puts out is dirtier per volume. Bu...   Nov 18 2008, 10:12 PM
scotty   :agree: However, Carbon In still equals Carbon O...   Nov 18 2008, 11:40 PM
FourBlades   Looking at the whole lifecycle, the best green str...   Nov 19 2008, 08:12 AM
orange914   Looking at the whole lifecycle, the best green st...   Nov 20 2008, 01:53 AM
rick 918-S   There is a practical part of carbon reduction that...   Nov 19 2008, 08:56 AM
r_towle   There is a practical part of carbon reduction tha...   Nov 19 2008, 09:32 AM
yeahmag   So, the whole life cycle thing is interesting, but...   Nov 19 2008, 06:47 PM
r_towle   So, the whole life cycle thing is interesting, bu...   Nov 19 2008, 07:38 PM
yeahmag   I'm having lunch today with Caltech's EV C...   Nov 20 2008, 12:53 PM
scotty   Probably bad for the environment, but it gets you ...   Nov 20 2008, 09:30 PM
kwales   If you really want to be green, Put a plastic ba...   Nov 20 2008, 09:42 PM
scotty   :trophy: The Ultimate Solution ...   Nov 20 2008, 10:59 PM


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