 OT: Gas mileage vs. emissions, tree hugger alert |
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| yeahmag |
 Nov 17 2008, 12:24 PM
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OK. I admit it... I dig green technology. Well I dig all technology, but I digress...
I'm curious how emissions vs. gas mileage balance out. For example: My '88 FJ62 gets about 12 MPG on a good day, but has F.I., Catalytic Converters, and all that good stuff. My 914 gets over 2X that, but has no emissions equipment at all. I'm curious at where the tipping point is: 2 stroke scooter vs. compact car 4 stroke scooter vs. compact car etc... I'm even considering trying to build a junkyard/STF electric motorcycle. I'm poor, but have plenty of time and creativity! Comments? -Aaron |
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| yeahmag |
Nov 18 2008, 12:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,422 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California
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Back to the topic... What I'm really interested in is where is the trade off in C02 emissions and fuel mileage. I see plenty of sites touting that scooters are good for the environment and am conflicted.
On one hand they have excellent gas mileage, but on the other they have almost no modern emissions equipment. The head of the EV Club here at Caltech said in passing he thinks a modern car or even an SUV is *better* for the environment than a scooter. Discuss... |
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| Porcharu |
Nov 18 2008, 11:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(yeahmag @ Nov 18 2008, 10:44 AM)  Back to the topic... What I'm really interested in is where is the trade off in C02 emissions and fuel mileage. I see plenty of sites touting that scooters are good for the environment and am conflicted. On one hand they have excellent gas mileage, but on the other they have almost no modern emissions equipment. The head of the EV Club here at Caltech said in passing he thinks a modern car or even an SUV is *better* for the environment than a scooter. Discuss... It really depends if you think CO2 is pollution -I don't. A scooter (or a lawn mower) has vastly more 'real pollution' (such as unburned hydrocarbons this is the typical stench of an older car than any newer car or truck.) A modern car or truck has almost no emissions of the classic auto pollution. Some new cars have cleaner exhaust than LA air on a bad day (base model Ford focus.) |
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yeahmag OT: Gas mileage vs. emissions Nov 17 2008, 12:24 PM
orange914 depending on what your vehicle needs are:
efficie... Nov 17 2008, 07:04 PM scotty Carbon In = Carbon Out so better fuel economy = le... Nov 17 2008, 07:36 PM Vacca Rabite After driving behind a pack of them (in my wife... Nov 17 2008, 07:37 PM Brett W Get a Honda. They are cheap enough that you can... Nov 18 2008, 09:25 AM effutuo101 Green. I get it. But, I am confused.
I don't u... Nov 18 2008, 10:52 AM
r_towle
Green. I get it. But, I am confused.
I don't ... Nov 18 2008, 11:19 AM r_towle
Back to the topic... What I'm really interest... Nov 18 2008, 12:56 PM yeahmag Good points...
I use to always talk about life c... Nov 18 2008, 01:00 PM Dave_Darling What the moped puts out is dirtier per volume. Bu... Nov 18 2008, 10:12 PM scotty :agree:
However, Carbon In still equals Carbon O... Nov 18 2008, 11:40 PM FourBlades Looking at the whole lifecycle, the best green str... Nov 19 2008, 08:12 AM orange914
Looking at the whole lifecycle, the best green st... Nov 20 2008, 01:53 AM rick 918-S There is a practical part of carbon reduction that... Nov 19 2008, 08:56 AM r_towle
There is a practical part of carbon reduction tha... Nov 19 2008, 09:32 AM yeahmag So, the whole life cycle thing is interesting, but... Nov 19 2008, 06:47 PM r_towle
So, the whole life cycle thing is interesting, bu... Nov 19 2008, 07:38 PM yeahmag I'm having lunch today with Caltech's EV C... Nov 20 2008, 12:53 PM scotty Probably bad for the environment, but it gets you ... Nov 20 2008, 09:30 PM kwales If you really want to be green,
Put a plastic ba... Nov 20 2008, 09:42 PM scotty :trophy: The Ultimate Solution
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