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> RANT: Electric Conversions, Not what you think......
KaptKaos
post Jan 26 2009, 12:24 PM
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There's a fellow selling a motor in the classifieds. Here's the link:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=92077

Seems normal enough. I assume, maybe wrongly, that this person is using the car for an electric conversion.

I have no issue with people converting their cars to electric motors. However, I am wondering if it is reasonable to ask or inform the people that are looking to do this to please try to use '76 cars? This is particularly important in California, as the smog checks in California aren't required on Pre-76 cars.

There are two counter arguments that I can think of and they are:

1) '76 cars are fairly rare, and therefore either more expensive and/or harder to find.
2) The point of an electric conversion is to reduce emissions, so using a car that has higher emissions makes more sense.

I am not sure if this is practical/possible/reasonable/feasible, so I figured that I'd ask.

Am I out of line here?

Please note that I mean no ill will to the seller above.
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post Jan 26 2009, 02:09 PM
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I really don't understand some of these postings that are so angry regarding electrical conversions? If I ever decided to convert my '74 914 to batteries, it would be my decision, not yours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

I am also surprised that many of the owners out there that would take their 914 into a major non-stock modifications (V8, large type IV, six etc) would be so judgemental regarding anyone that would electrify their 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

As for leaving the pre-76 914's open to modification (V8, large type IV, six etc), the California exemption for pre-1976 cars from emission testing is specifically for vehicles that are in their stock configuration. Once you modify your 914 with a non-stock /6, V8 or large type IV, it is no longer emission testing exempt. So the premise of using only pre-76 vehicles for electrical modification just doesn't hold water...

OK, I guess it's time for the judgemental posters out there to flame me now...

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post Jan 26 2009, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(ericread @ Jan 26 2009, 12:09 PM) *

I really don't understand some of these postings that are so angry regarding electrical conversions? If I ever decided to convert my '74 914 to batteries, it would be my decision, not yours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

I am also surprised that many of the owners out there that would take their 914 into a major non-stock modifications (V8, large type IV, six etc) would be so judgemental regarding anyone that would electrify their 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

As for leaving the pre-76 914's open to modification (V8, large type IV, six etc), the California exemption for pre-1976 cars from emission testing is specifically for vehicles that are in their stock configuration. Once you modify your 914 with a non-stock /6, V8 or large type IV, it is no longer emission testing exempt. So the premise of using only pre-76 vehicles for electrical modification just doesn't hold water...

OK, I guess it's time for the judgemental posters out there to flame me now...

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If your refering to my post Eric I would never flame you or make your choices for you. Who am I to judge you? I'm just stating the facts as I see them. Notice I added (IMHO)
It has always been my understanding that people have been marketing electric vehicle conversions as a green way to go. I simply pointed out the "cons" that are never talked about.
Then there is the issue of climate. Electric cars would never work here. It was 13 below zero here this morning. A battery powered starter on a gas engine doesn't spin over fast enough in these temps to start some cars much less drive to the mall and back. I'm just stating another side of the issue. So for me, it would matter if the electric conversion was in a 1970 or a 1976. I couldn't get around the block today with the current battery tecnology. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) So, IMHO, battery power is a waste of time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Remember, This is flat text. It's easy to read things into someones post. Specially if you have an opposing opinion.
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KaptKaos   RANT: Electric Conversions   Jan 26 2009, 12:24 PM
ericread   I'm not sure I understand your question? Are ...   Jan 26 2009, 12:43 PM
r_towle   There's a fellow selling a motor in the class...   Jan 26 2009, 12:44 PM
KaptKaos   I say to let them use whatever they want. From wh...   Jan 26 2009, 01:02 PM
Vacca Rabite   In short, no. Its not reasonable. Zach   Jan 26 2009, 01:27 PM
rick 918-S   Until battery technology makes some serious stride...   Jan 26 2009, 01:40 PM
r_towle   Until battery technology makes some serious strid...   Jan 26 2009, 03:33 PM
rick 918-S   Until battery technology makes some serious stri...   Jan 26 2009, 03:49 PM
creeg123   All good points. But lets move into the inner ci...   Jan 26 2009, 03:57 PM
r_towle   [quote name='r_towle' post='1126219' date='Jan 26...   Jan 26 2009, 04:56 PM
Root_Werks   Until battery technology makes some serious strid...   Mar 28 2011, 08:53 AM
PThompson509   Until battery technology makes some serious stri...   Mar 28 2011, 11:13 AM
GeorgeRud   I'd agree with Rick, there are no truly viable...   Jan 26 2009, 01:53 PM
Elliot Cannon   Joes comment, I believe is mostly for California p...   Jan 26 2009, 01:54 PM
KaptKaos   Joes comment, I believe is mostly for California ...   Jan 26 2009, 03:25 PM
ericread   I really don't understand some of these postin...   Jan 26 2009, 02:09 PM
rick 918-S   I really don't understand some of these posti...   Jan 26 2009, 03:14 PM
biosurfer1   I saw a little promise watching that video of the ...   Jan 26 2009, 02:27 PM
So.Cal.914   It does unless some idiot told them it's mod...   Jan 26 2009, 02:39 PM
ericread   It does unless some idiot told them it's mo...   Jan 26 2009, 02:50 PM
CliffBraun   It does unless some idiot told them it's m...   Jan 26 2009, 03:10 PM
So.Cal.914   It does unless some idiot told them it's m...   Jan 26 2009, 04:18 PM
ericread   Nothing illegal on your car? Never? No header? ...   Jan 26 2009, 07:10 PM
So.Cal.914   Nothing illegal on your car? Never? No header? ...   Jan 26 2009, 07:32 PM
ericread   Well genius those were not my comments, Kapt Kao...   Jan 26 2009, 09:22 PM
creeg123   I bought a 73 teener that has been converted. It n...   Jan 26 2009, 03:24 PM
grantsfo   I say let the conversions run amock across all mod...   Jan 26 2009, 02:56 PM
effutuo101   as the smog checks in California aren't requir...   Jan 26 2009, 03:12 PM
CliffBraun   as the smog checks in California aren't requi...   Jan 26 2009, 03:15 PM
ericread   as the smog checks in California aren't requi...   Jan 26 2009, 03:17 PM
smontanaro   I've been thinking about an electric conversio...   Jan 26 2009, 03:47 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   So where is all this extra electicity going to com...   Jan 26 2009, 06:08 PM
r_towle   So where is all this extra electicity going to co...   Jan 26 2009, 08:36 PM
YksKrad   So where is all this extra electicity going to co...   Jan 26 2009, 06:28 PM
L8KTAHO   I own a contractor company and need fully loaded w...   Jan 26 2009, 06:42 PM
smontanaro   This is a mtn. town with lots of snow. Will the e...   Jan 26 2009, 08:50 PM
Aaron Cox   Joe (kapt kalorie) You got more important things ...   Jan 26 2009, 07:40 PM
KaptKaos   Joe (kapt kalorie) You got more important things...   Jan 26 2009, 10:32 PM
YksKrad   Why build nuclear plants with no disposal method...   Jan 26 2009, 08:58 PM
ChrisNPDrider   BE THE CHANGE! For those that wait until it i...   Jan 26 2009, 10:08 PM
TimK   Hi All, Glad to see the excellent discussion on ...   Jan 26 2009, 10:33 PM
ChrisNPDrider   BE THE CHANGE! For those that wait until it i...   Jan 26 2009, 11:20 PM
plymouth37   If you are building an electric 914 it's gotta...   Jan 26 2009, 11:41 PM
sgomes   :bootyshake: I'm another converter as some o...   Jan 27 2009, 07:51 AM
LarryR   So where is all this extra electicity going to c...   Jan 27 2009, 08:49 AM
jrmole   Hi all, I just got home from after dropping ...   Jan 27 2009, 10:50 AM
Goge   Am I safe from ridicule on this board, since I cho...   Jan 27 2009, 11:18 AM
Mark Henry   I've been watching this and although I applaud...   Jan 27 2009, 07:50 PM
PThompson509   Hmm, well, if I *could* have found a '76 I wou...   Jan 27 2009, 10:20 PM
sEEkEr   Excellent thread and some great mind on mind frict...   Feb 4 2009, 06:27 PM
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