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> RANT: Electric Conversions, Not what you think......
KaptKaos
post Jan 26 2009, 12:24 PM
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There's a fellow selling a motor in the classifieds. Here's the link:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=92077

Seems normal enough. I assume, maybe wrongly, that this person is using the car for an electric conversion.

I have no issue with people converting their cars to electric motors. However, I am wondering if it is reasonable to ask or inform the people that are looking to do this to please try to use '76 cars? This is particularly important in California, as the smog checks in California aren't required on Pre-76 cars.

There are two counter arguments that I can think of and they are:

1) '76 cars are fairly rare, and therefore either more expensive and/or harder to find.
2) The point of an electric conversion is to reduce emissions, so using a car that has higher emissions makes more sense.

I am not sure if this is practical/possible/reasonable/feasible, so I figured that I'd ask.

Am I out of line here?

Please note that I mean no ill will to the seller above.
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post Jan 26 2009, 02:39 PM
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So the premise of using only pre-76 vehicles for electrical modification just doesn't hold water...


It does unless some idiot told them it's modified.
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post Jan 26 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Jan 26 2009, 12:39 PM) *

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So the premise of using only pre-76 vehicles for electrical modification just doesn't hold water...


It does unless some idiot told them it's modified.


Sure, you can lie, cheat and steal. It still doesn't make it legal. You could re-badge a 76 as a 75 and get around the legal requirements too (We've all seen the thread where a certain Atlanta reseller offered to sell the required items to do just that). It doesn't make it right and I wouldn't want to have to explain to the police if I got caught...

Seemingly, if you were in an accident or some other type of event where a police officer inspected the vehicle and found a V8 where a four-cylinder 2.0L engine were expected, I would assume there would be some splaining to do...

I was only assuming that this question was being asked with integrity as to legal requirements. If this thread is based upon the premise that we all misrepresent our vehicles, then the 1976 issue still doesn't hold water.

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post Jan 26 2009, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(So.Cal.914 @ Jan 26 2009, 12:39 PM) *

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So the premise of using only pre-76 vehicles for electrical modification just doesn't hold water...


It does unless some idiot told them it's modified.


Sure, you can lie, cheat and steal. It still doesn't make it legal. You could re-badge a 76 as a 75 and get around the legal requirements too (We've all seen the thread where a certain Atlanta reseller offered to sell the required items to do just that). It doesn't make it right and I wouldn't want to have to explain to the police if I got caught...

Seemingly, if you were in an accident or some other type of event where a police officer inspected the vehicle and found a V8 where a four-cylinder 2.0L engine were expected, I would assume there would be some splaining to do...

I was only assuming that this question was being asked with integrity as to legal requirements. If this thread is based upon the premise that we all misrepresent our vehicles, then the 1976 issue still doesn't hold water.

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Nothing illegal on your car? Never? No header? Never owned a modified car? Modifing an engine can hardly compare to rebadging a car illegally. Legally as I understand it you can not change any equipment on your street car. Done any of that? If not I am sorry for you, you have missed out on a lot of fun. If so quit acting so "Holier than thou".
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post Jan 26 2009, 07:10 PM
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Nothing illegal on your car? Never? No header? Never owned a modified car? Modifing an engine can hardly compair to rebadging a car illegally. Legally as I understand it you can not change any equipment on your street car. Done any of that? If not I am sorry for you, you have missed out on a lot of fun. If so quit acting so "Holier than thou".


"Holier than thou" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

This, from a guy who wants to ban any modifications to a pre-1976 914 unless it's his modifications!

I hope you see how ridiculous that is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)

All I am trying to point out is that the premise of the 1976 914 being the only car that should be modified to be an electrical vehicle while any pre-1976 914 should be allowed to be modified with a V8 is a silly premise.

And using the California law which allows stock 1975 and older cars to be emission test exempt as a support to your premise is simply bogus.

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KaptKaos   RANT: Electric Conversions   Jan 26 2009, 12:24 PM
ericread   I'm not sure I understand your question? Are ...   Jan 26 2009, 12:43 PM
r_towle   There's a fellow selling a motor in the class...   Jan 26 2009, 12:44 PM
KaptKaos   I say to let them use whatever they want. From wh...   Jan 26 2009, 01:02 PM
Vacca Rabite   In short, no. Its not reasonable. Zach   Jan 26 2009, 01:27 PM
rick 918-S   Until battery technology makes some serious stride...   Jan 26 2009, 01:40 PM
r_towle   Until battery technology makes some serious strid...   Jan 26 2009, 03:33 PM
rick 918-S   Until battery technology makes some serious stri...   Jan 26 2009, 03:49 PM
creeg123   All good points. But lets move into the inner ci...   Jan 26 2009, 03:57 PM
r_towle   [quote name='r_towle' post='1126219' date='Jan 26...   Jan 26 2009, 04:56 PM
Root_Werks   Until battery technology makes some serious strid...   Mar 28 2011, 08:53 AM
PThompson509   Until battery technology makes some serious stri...   Mar 28 2011, 11:13 AM
GeorgeRud   I'd agree with Rick, there are no truly viable...   Jan 26 2009, 01:53 PM
Elliot Cannon   Joes comment, I believe is mostly for California p...   Jan 26 2009, 01:54 PM
KaptKaos   Joes comment, I believe is mostly for California ...   Jan 26 2009, 03:25 PM
ericread   I really don't understand some of these postin...   Jan 26 2009, 02:09 PM
rick 918-S   I really don't understand some of these posti...   Jan 26 2009, 03:14 PM
biosurfer1   I saw a little promise watching that video of the ...   Jan 26 2009, 02:27 PM
So.Cal.914   It does unless some idiot told them it's mod...   Jan 26 2009, 02:39 PM
ericread   It does unless some idiot told them it's mo...   Jan 26 2009, 02:50 PM
CliffBraun   It does unless some idiot told them it's m...   Jan 26 2009, 03:10 PM
So.Cal.914   It does unless some idiot told them it's m...   Jan 26 2009, 04:18 PM
ericread   Nothing illegal on your car? Never? No header? ...   Jan 26 2009, 07:10 PM
So.Cal.914   Nothing illegal on your car? Never? No header? ...   Jan 26 2009, 07:32 PM
ericread   Well genius those were not my comments, Kapt Kao...   Jan 26 2009, 09:22 PM
creeg123   I bought a 73 teener that has been converted. It n...   Jan 26 2009, 03:24 PM
grantsfo   I say let the conversions run amock across all mod...   Jan 26 2009, 02:56 PM
effutuo101   as the smog checks in California aren't requir...   Jan 26 2009, 03:12 PM
CliffBraun   as the smog checks in California aren't requi...   Jan 26 2009, 03:15 PM
ericread   as the smog checks in California aren't requi...   Jan 26 2009, 03:17 PM
smontanaro   I've been thinking about an electric conversio...   Jan 26 2009, 03:47 PM
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