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| Krieger |
Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
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I know there are shops out there that raise the spindle on bilstein struts then heat and bend the steering knuckle down to help with bump steer. I plan on lowering the front suspension about 1.5" by using the adjuster. I have boge struts and want to know if anyone has done just the heating and bending of the steering knuckle, does it work to counteract bump steer, is it hard to do acurately?
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 4 2009, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE On a lowered car, you want to get your A-Arms as close to parallel to the ground as possible. Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK because the a-arms are quite parallel to the ground. Also... what if I didn't want to lower it that much; would that be wrong? A parallel a-arm is not making sense. I'm sticking with the tie-rods parallel to the ground and the rack. because in Fig. 1 and Fig. 3+4 that's the constant. Fig. 1 shows a tie-rod that is correct and parallel. Fig. 3+4 shows a tie-rod that is supposedly correct and parallel. Me thinks you've been drink'n again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
| SirAndy |
Feb 4 2009, 11:01 PM
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Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK because the a-arms are quite parallel to the ground. Are you deliberately misreading my posts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I said, and that was when you started riding my ass, that both the A-Arms and Tie Rods should be parallel to each other on a lowered car. Then i said that on a lowered car, you want the A-Arms parallel to the ground. Combine the two, and on a lowered car you want the A-Arms parallel to the ground, the Tie Rods parallel to the A-Arms, which also makes the Tie Rods parallel to the ground. So, no Fig. 2 is NOT ok. In fact, it's the worst you can do in regards to bump steer. If you had taken the time to read my posts, that would have been clear ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) Andy |
Krieger914 Question 911 front strut steering knuckle Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
J P Stein ERP tie rod extensions are the way I went. Bending... Feb 3 2009, 10:01 PM
J P Stein Oops, not my car. Too dirty. :D
This is Feb 3 2009, 10:04 PM
Krieger914 Did you use rack spacers too? Feb 3 2009, 11:27 PM
brant I don't think you would need the lowered strut... Feb 3 2009, 11:31 PM
ArtechnikA
I don't think you would need the lowered stru... Feb 4 2009, 04:31 AM
charliew Those extensions put a lot of twist motion on the ... Feb 4 2009, 12:29 AM
Eric_Shea Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for th... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 AM
Wes V
Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for t... Feb 4 2009, 10:53 AM
Eric_Shea Thanks.
I'm ordering spacers from McMaster in... Feb 4 2009, 11:27 AM
SirAndy
I'm thinking it keeps the t-rods parallel to ... Feb 4 2009, 12:05 PM
ArtechnikA
Am I missing something with this whacky geometric... Feb 4 2009, 01:01 PM
J P Stein I have taken the time to measure how much suspensi... Feb 4 2009, 01:38 PM
zig-n-zag Its not my thread, but thanks to all for sharing, ... Feb 4 2009, 01:53 PM
brant Eric,
the above is correct
there is only a limit... Feb 4 2009, 02:21 PM
Eric_Shea I was wondering about that... well, I'll get 3... Feb 4 2009, 03:37 PM
Krieger914 Thanks for the feedback.
So this is the key? I h... Feb 4 2009, 08:27 PM
Eric_Shea
I've got a factory manual that shows otherwi... Feb 4 2009, 10:13 PM
SirAndy
They show the tie-rod in an absolute parallel wit... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 PM
Eric_Shea
No Sir. Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree... Feb 4 2009, 10:21 PM
SirAndy
Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree downward ... Feb 4 2009, 10:26 PM
Eric_Shea
I don't think so... it looks to be a stock 1... Feb 4 2009, 10:38 PM
SirAndy
Work with me here...
This is where i'm going ... Feb 4 2009, 10:44 PM
SirAndy Added the Tie Rod extension to the pic for clarifi... Feb 4 2009, 10:50 PM
Eric_Shea Reeeeowwwww... :poke:
:D Feb 4 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea
And no I'm not riding your ass. I was actua... Feb 4 2009, 11:44 PM
SirAndy
I wasn't riding you
:pinkylifters:
At lea... Feb 5 2009, 12:33 AM
Krieger914 Thank you Andy! very nice illustrations. Nic... Feb 5 2009, 12:26 AM
Racer Chris
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A arms parallel to the ground maximizes the d... Feb 5 2009, 08:05 AM
Eric_Shea
The important take away I'm getting after lo... Feb 5 2009, 08:24 AM
SirAndy
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 5 2009, 10:11 AM
Racer Chris
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 6 2009, 10:17 AM
Krieger914 So Andy with your configuration are you having any... Feb 5 2009, 10:30 AM
SirAndy
So Andy with your configuration are you having an... Feb 5 2009, 10:55 AM
Eric_Shea
Agreed... that may simply solve all my issues. Feb 5 2009, 12:21 PM
charliew Ok the simple explanation is as Chris and Andy... Feb 5 2009, 12:31 PM
sww914 I like this bump steer kit- http://www.rebelracing... Feb 5 2009, 06:56 PM
Krieger914 Smart has one that looks much the same for $3... Feb 5 2009, 07:38 PM
Eric_Shea Man... I went at a spreadsheet for about an hour l... Feb 6 2009, 04:21 PM
J P Stein FWIW....My thinking is you need to approximately s... Feb 6 2009, 06:35 PM
Krieger914 Today I installed the front crossmember and steeri... Feb 7 2009, 09:40 PM
craig downs Another problem moving the rack to far up is your ... Feb 7 2009, 11:22 PM
Krieger914 I'm buying a thinner aluminum spacer someone o... Feb 7 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea I bought a box of McMaster 4.5mm washers. We... Feb 8 2009, 11:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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