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| Krieger |
Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
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I know there are shops out there that raise the spindle on bilstein struts then heat and bend the steering knuckle down to help with bump steer. I plan on lowering the front suspension about 1.5" by using the adjuster. I have boge struts and want to know if anyone has done just the heating and bending of the steering knuckle, does it work to counteract bump steer, is it hard to do acurately?
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| Krieger |
Feb 5 2009, 12:26 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,847 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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Thank you Andy! very nice illustrations. Nice fat rack spacers are the true cheap, but problematic solution if you consider the rack will hit the sheet metal above.
QUOTE Also... what if I didn't want to lower it that much; would that be wrong? A parallel a-arm is not making sense. A arms parallel to the ground maximizes the distance between the two front wheels-widening the track. (each wheel swings in an arc -right?) Those illustrations are static and when the wheel goes up the angle at the rack changes. The important take away I'm getting is the relationship between the tie rod v the a arm. |
| ChrisFoley |
Feb 5 2009, 08:05 AM
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,019 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None
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... A arms parallel to the ground maximizes the distance between the two front wheels-widening the track. ... More acurately, positioning the a-arm so the center of the ball joint is at the same height as the center of the torsion bar will maximize the track width. There will be bump steer at some part of the range of travel, regardless of whether the arms are parallel to the a-arms or not. If you want bump steer to truly not be a factor it is essential to actually measure it on your setup, instead of making assumptions about what happens. There are dissimilarities between the arc of motion of the a-arm and the tie rod even when they are set parallel at rest. On my race car, I use a combination of rack spacers and bent steering arms to minimize the effects of bump steer. |
Krieger914 Question 911 front strut steering knuckle Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
J P Stein ERP tie rod extensions are the way I went. Bending... Feb 3 2009, 10:01 PM
J P Stein Oops, not my car. Too dirty. :D
This is Feb 3 2009, 10:04 PM
Krieger914 Did you use rack spacers too? Feb 3 2009, 11:27 PM
brant I don't think you would need the lowered strut... Feb 3 2009, 11:31 PM
ArtechnikA
I don't think you would need the lowered stru... Feb 4 2009, 04:31 AM
charliew Those extensions put a lot of twist motion on the ... Feb 4 2009, 12:29 AM
Eric_Shea Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for th... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 AM
Wes V
Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for t... Feb 4 2009, 10:53 AM
Eric_Shea Thanks.
I'm ordering spacers from McMaster in... Feb 4 2009, 11:27 AM
SirAndy
I'm thinking it keeps the t-rods parallel to ... Feb 4 2009, 12:05 PM
ArtechnikA
Am I missing something with this whacky geometric... Feb 4 2009, 01:01 PM
J P Stein I have taken the time to measure how much suspensi... Feb 4 2009, 01:38 PM
zig-n-zag Its not my thread, but thanks to all for sharing, ... Feb 4 2009, 01:53 PM
brant Eric,
the above is correct
there is only a limit... Feb 4 2009, 02:21 PM
Eric_Shea I was wondering about that... well, I'll get 3... Feb 4 2009, 03:37 PM
Krieger914 Thanks for the feedback.
So this is the key? I h... Feb 4 2009, 08:27 PM
Eric_Shea
I've got a factory manual that shows otherwi... Feb 4 2009, 10:13 PM
SirAndy
They show the tie-rod in an absolute parallel wit... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 PM
Eric_Shea
No Sir. Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree... Feb 4 2009, 10:21 PM
SirAndy
Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree downward ... Feb 4 2009, 10:26 PM
Eric_Shea
I don't think so... it looks to be a stock 1... Feb 4 2009, 10:38 PM
SirAndy
Work with me here...
This is where i'm going ... Feb 4 2009, 10:44 PM
SirAndy Added the Tie Rod extension to the pic for clarifi... Feb 4 2009, 10:50 PM
Eric_Shea
Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK be... Feb 4 2009, 10:54 PM
SirAndy
Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK bec... Feb 4 2009, 11:01 PM
Eric_Shea Reeeeowwwww... :poke:
:D Feb 4 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea
And no I'm not riding your ass. I was actua... Feb 4 2009, 11:44 PM
SirAndy
I wasn't riding you
:pinkylifters:
At lea... Feb 5 2009, 12:33 AM
Eric_Shea
The important take away I'm getting after lo... Feb 5 2009, 08:24 AM
SirAndy
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 5 2009, 10:11 AM
Racer Chris
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 6 2009, 10:17 AM
Krieger914 So Andy with your configuration are you having any... Feb 5 2009, 10:30 AM
SirAndy
So Andy with your configuration are you having an... Feb 5 2009, 10:55 AM
Eric_Shea
Agreed... that may simply solve all my issues. Feb 5 2009, 12:21 PM
charliew Ok the simple explanation is as Chris and Andy... Feb 5 2009, 12:31 PM
sww914 I like this bump steer kit- http://www.rebelracing... Feb 5 2009, 06:56 PM
Krieger914 Smart has one that looks much the same for $3... Feb 5 2009, 07:38 PM
Eric_Shea Man... I went at a spreadsheet for about an hour l... Feb 6 2009, 04:21 PM
J P Stein FWIW....My thinking is you need to approximately s... Feb 6 2009, 06:35 PM
Krieger914 Today I installed the front crossmember and steeri... Feb 7 2009, 09:40 PM
craig downs Another problem moving the rack to far up is your ... Feb 7 2009, 11:22 PM
Krieger914 I'm buying a thinner aluminum spacer someone o... Feb 7 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea I bought a box of McMaster 4.5mm washers. We... Feb 8 2009, 11:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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