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| Krieger |
Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
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I know there are shops out there that raise the spindle on bilstein struts then heat and bend the steering knuckle down to help with bump steer. I plan on lowering the front suspension about 1.5" by using the adjuster. I have boge struts and want to know if anyone has done just the heating and bending of the steering knuckle, does it work to counteract bump steer, is it hard to do acurately?
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 5 2009, 08:24 AM
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PMB Performance ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 19,304 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE The important take away I'm getting is the relationship between the tie rod v the a arm. The important take away I'm getting after looking at what are supposedly correct configurations (1, 3 & 4) is the tie-rod v the steering rack (or the ground). With raised spindles, which the factory did on certain RS's and all RSR's, it would be the tie-rod relationship that is changed. QUOTE If you want bump steer to truly not be a factor it is essential to actually measure it on your setup, instead of making assumptions about what happens. There are dissimilarities between the arc of motion of the a-arm and the tie rod even when they are set parallel at rest. On my race car, I use a combination of rack spacers and bent steering arms to minimize the effects of bump steer. So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use the factory 108 +/- number and add 18mm to the acceptable difference (Koni struts with spindles raised 18mm)? Adding rack spacers wouldn't help with the center of the torsion bar so, would I add the width of the spacers to the acceptable number as well? How much to bend my spindles on those if need be? |
Krieger914 Question 911 front strut steering knuckle Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
J P Stein ERP tie rod extensions are the way I went. Bending... Feb 3 2009, 10:01 PM
J P Stein Oops, not my car. Too dirty. :D
This is Feb 3 2009, 10:04 PM
Krieger914 Did you use rack spacers too? Feb 3 2009, 11:27 PM
brant I don't think you would need the lowered strut... Feb 3 2009, 11:31 PM
ArtechnikA
I don't think you would need the lowered stru... Feb 4 2009, 04:31 AM
charliew Those extensions put a lot of twist motion on the ... Feb 4 2009, 12:29 AM
Eric_Shea Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for th... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 AM
Wes V
Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for t... Feb 4 2009, 10:53 AM
Eric_Shea Thanks.
I'm ordering spacers from McMaster in... Feb 4 2009, 11:27 AM
SirAndy
I'm thinking it keeps the t-rods parallel to ... Feb 4 2009, 12:05 PM
ArtechnikA
Am I missing something with this whacky geometric... Feb 4 2009, 01:01 PM
J P Stein I have taken the time to measure how much suspensi... Feb 4 2009, 01:38 PM
zig-n-zag Its not my thread, but thanks to all for sharing, ... Feb 4 2009, 01:53 PM
brant Eric,
the above is correct
there is only a limit... Feb 4 2009, 02:21 PM
Eric_Shea I was wondering about that... well, I'll get 3... Feb 4 2009, 03:37 PM
Krieger914 Thanks for the feedback.
So this is the key? I h... Feb 4 2009, 08:27 PM
Eric_Shea
I've got a factory manual that shows otherwi... Feb 4 2009, 10:13 PM
SirAndy
They show the tie-rod in an absolute parallel wit... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 PM
Eric_Shea
No Sir. Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree... Feb 4 2009, 10:21 PM
SirAndy
Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree downward ... Feb 4 2009, 10:26 PM
Eric_Shea
I don't think so... it looks to be a stock 1... Feb 4 2009, 10:38 PM
SirAndy
Work with me here...
This is where i'm going ... Feb 4 2009, 10:44 PM
SirAndy Added the Tie Rod extension to the pic for clarifi... Feb 4 2009, 10:50 PM
Eric_Shea
Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK be... Feb 4 2009, 10:54 PM
SirAndy
Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK bec... Feb 4 2009, 11:01 PM
Eric_Shea Reeeeowwwww... :poke:
:D Feb 4 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea
And no I'm not riding your ass. I was actua... Feb 4 2009, 11:44 PM
SirAndy
I wasn't riding you
:pinkylifters:
At lea... Feb 5 2009, 12:33 AM
Krieger914 Thank you Andy! very nice illustrations. Nic... Feb 5 2009, 12:26 AM
Racer Chris
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A arms parallel to the ground maximizes the d... Feb 5 2009, 08:05 AM
SirAndy
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 5 2009, 10:11 AM
Racer Chris
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 6 2009, 10:17 AM
Krieger914 So Andy with your configuration are you having any... Feb 5 2009, 10:30 AM
SirAndy
So Andy with your configuration are you having an... Feb 5 2009, 10:55 AM
Eric_Shea
Agreed... that may simply solve all my issues. Feb 5 2009, 12:21 PM
charliew Ok the simple explanation is as Chris and Andy... Feb 5 2009, 12:31 PM
sww914 I like this bump steer kit- http://www.rebelracing... Feb 5 2009, 06:56 PM
Krieger914 Smart has one that looks much the same for $3... Feb 5 2009, 07:38 PM
Eric_Shea Man... I went at a spreadsheet for about an hour l... Feb 6 2009, 04:21 PM
J P Stein FWIW....My thinking is you need to approximately s... Feb 6 2009, 06:35 PM
Krieger914 Today I installed the front crossmember and steeri... Feb 7 2009, 09:40 PM
craig downs Another problem moving the rack to far up is your ... Feb 7 2009, 11:22 PM
Krieger914 I'm buying a thinner aluminum spacer someone o... Feb 7 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea I bought a box of McMaster 4.5mm washers. We... Feb 8 2009, 11:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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