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| Krieger |
Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
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I know there are shops out there that raise the spindle on bilstein struts then heat and bend the steering knuckle down to help with bump steer. I plan on lowering the front suspension about 1.5" by using the adjuster. I have boge struts and want to know if anyone has done just the heating and bending of the steering knuckle, does it work to counteract bump steer, is it hard to do acurately?
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| charliew |
Feb 5 2009, 12:31 PM
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Ok the simple explanation is as Chris and Andy's nice art work states is that:
The tierod needs to be exactly the same length from it's inner ball joint to the end at the spindle arm as the a-arm from the inner bushings to the balljoint so that they stay parallel and swing in the exact same arc. If the steering rack is two inches higher and three inches further rearward from the inner a-arm bushings the spindle arm end for the tierod needs to be 2 inches above the balljoint and three inches rearward of it. Actually a straight line at rest between the tierod ends. If this ain't so you gotta set it at ride heigth and limit the travel of the suspension so the bump steer is as little as you can get it. The limited travel is what makes it not keep the wheels on the ground under normal use. It seems that track cars may not need the extral travel that you need on a street car. How much you lower the car seems to be relative to when the tire will touch the fender lip when it is turned and bottomed out. If you are trying to keep the full motion of a strut insert on a lowered fat front tired 914, Can you make a piece that is the same length as a bottomed strut insert and put it in the strut and use that as the starting place with your chosen front wheel to see where to put the rack and spindle in relation to the strut? It seems that when you bend the tierod end of the spindle arm down it gets shorter and that will quicken steering but will change the relationship of the arcs. If you guys know a place to get this info for the 914 please enlighten me, I'm sure I'm not the first dummy to study this. |
Krieger914 Question 911 front strut steering knuckle Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
J P Stein ERP tie rod extensions are the way I went. Bending... Feb 3 2009, 10:01 PM
J P Stein Oops, not my car. Too dirty. :D
This is Feb 3 2009, 10:04 PM
Krieger914 Did you use rack spacers too? Feb 3 2009, 11:27 PM
brant I don't think you would need the lowered strut... Feb 3 2009, 11:31 PM
ArtechnikA
I don't think you would need the lowered stru... Feb 4 2009, 04:31 AM
charliew Those extensions put a lot of twist motion on the ... Feb 4 2009, 12:29 AM
Eric_Shea Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for th... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 AM
Wes V
Anyone know the pitch on those M10x22's for t... Feb 4 2009, 10:53 AM
Eric_Shea Thanks.
I'm ordering spacers from McMaster in... Feb 4 2009, 11:27 AM
SirAndy
I'm thinking it keeps the t-rods parallel to ... Feb 4 2009, 12:05 PM
ArtechnikA
Am I missing something with this whacky geometric... Feb 4 2009, 01:01 PM
J P Stein I have taken the time to measure how much suspensi... Feb 4 2009, 01:38 PM
zig-n-zag Its not my thread, but thanks to all for sharing, ... Feb 4 2009, 01:53 PM
brant Eric,
the above is correct
there is only a limit... Feb 4 2009, 02:21 PM
Eric_Shea I was wondering about that... well, I'll get 3... Feb 4 2009, 03:37 PM
Krieger914 Thanks for the feedback.
So this is the key? I h... Feb 4 2009, 08:27 PM
Eric_Shea
I've got a factory manual that shows otherwi... Feb 4 2009, 10:13 PM
SirAndy
They show the tie-rod in an absolute parallel wit... Feb 4 2009, 10:19 PM
Eric_Shea
No Sir. Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree... Feb 4 2009, 10:21 PM
SirAndy
Looks to be angled at about a 15 degree downward ... Feb 4 2009, 10:26 PM
Eric_Shea
I don't think so... it looks to be a stock 1... Feb 4 2009, 10:38 PM
SirAndy
Work with me here...
This is where i'm going ... Feb 4 2009, 10:44 PM
SirAndy Added the Tie Rod extension to the pic for clarifi... Feb 4 2009, 10:50 PM
Eric_Shea
Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK be... Feb 4 2009, 10:54 PM
SirAndy
Hmmmmmmm... that would mean that Fig. 2 is OK bec... Feb 4 2009, 11:01 PM
Eric_Shea Reeeeowwwww... :poke:
:D Feb 4 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea
And no I'm not riding your ass. I was actua... Feb 4 2009, 11:44 PM
SirAndy
I wasn't riding you
:pinkylifters:
At lea... Feb 5 2009, 12:33 AM
Krieger914 Thank you Andy! very nice illustrations. Nic... Feb 5 2009, 12:26 AM
Racer Chris
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A arms parallel to the ground maximizes the d... Feb 5 2009, 08:05 AM
Eric_Shea
The important take away I'm getting after lo... Feb 5 2009, 08:24 AM
SirAndy
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 5 2009, 10:11 AM
Racer Chris
So in my situation Chris, I would measure and use... Feb 6 2009, 10:17 AM
Krieger914 So Andy with your configuration are you having any... Feb 5 2009, 10:30 AM
SirAndy
So Andy with your configuration are you having an... Feb 5 2009, 10:55 AM
Eric_Shea
Agreed... that may simply solve all my issues. Feb 5 2009, 12:21 PM
sww914 I like this bump steer kit- http://www.rebelracing... Feb 5 2009, 06:56 PM
Krieger914 Smart has one that looks much the same for $3... Feb 5 2009, 07:38 PM
Eric_Shea Man... I went at a spreadsheet for about an hour l... Feb 6 2009, 04:21 PM
J P Stein FWIW....My thinking is you need to approximately s... Feb 6 2009, 06:35 PM
Krieger914 Today I installed the front crossmember and steeri... Feb 7 2009, 09:40 PM
craig downs Another problem moving the rack to far up is your ... Feb 7 2009, 11:22 PM
Krieger914 I'm buying a thinner aluminum spacer someone o... Feb 7 2009, 11:37 PM
Eric_Shea I bought a box of McMaster 4.5mm washers. We... Feb 8 2009, 11:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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