suby hotrod motors, Probably cost equal to a really good porsche 6 Options

[charliew]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1699103

These motors are probably 15-20k once they reach the track. Just a offhand guess. As my son has spent 13k on a street motor with no tranny mods. Just motor, ported heads, bigger cams, 100mm bore, open source tuning with datalogging and utec piggyback, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, bigger oil pump, front mount ic, 8qt oil pan, true cold air intake and a 30r rotated turbo at 26 psi. Conservative tune about 425awhp. Also no water or alcohol injection yet.

[r_towle]

please explain a few things.
$1850 buy a short block or a long block?
Rephrase...does the item you get from subaru have heads, timing belts etc all installed? A pic might help on this answer.

So you get this motor.
You dont need to use subaru intake and FI, do you?
You still need headers, so where do you get those? are those new custom anyways, or are they a modification to the originals?

Hanging the motor cant be all that hard..its a retrofit bar of some sort.
Tranny can still be a 914 tranny.
Radiator seems to have been over thought by many companies...so there are many solutions.

Is it possible, or has anyone done it, to put a custom FI or webers on a subaru? Forget all the subaru ECU stuff.

Rich

[DBCooper]

please explain a few things.
$1850 buy a short block or a long block?

Short block. No heads, intake or exhaust.

Rephrase...does the item you get from subaru have heads, timing belts etc all installed? A pic might help on this answer.

No, it was a short block, so just the assembled block, crank and pistons. He already had a 2.0 liter WRX motor, so he bought a 2.5 short block and installed everything, heads, manifolds, electronics, belts, etc from the 2.0 onto the 2.5 short block, making his "hybrid" motor.

So you get this motor.
You dont need to use subaru intake and FI, do you?
You still need headers, so where do you get those? are those new custom anyways, or are they a modification to the originals?

I'm using a stock Subaru intake, throttle body, and injection, and I think WRX914 does the same. I control mine with a standalone aftermarket ECU, he uses a reprogrammed stock ECU. I use a stock STI exhaust to the turbo, then just an exhaust pipe back over the axle to a Dynaflow muffler in the stock muffler location. I think his is similar but I don't remember the details.

Is it possible, or has anyone done it, to put a custom FI or webers on a subaru? Forget all the subaru ECU stuff.

Yes, I think I read that someone actually put Webers onto a Subaru flat four. I think someone also put on ITB's too, but I honestly can't imagine why, unless it was just to be different. The stock motor, with very few tweaks, gives you all you need. I kind of like not having to mess with it, just getting in and going.