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PeeGreen 914
post Mar 22 2009, 10:17 PM
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So I am welding in the Tangerine Racing inner consol reinforcement. If I have the welder set on three it doesn't bite into the ear. If I have it set on four it bites but it blows holes in the new piece. I was able to get two holes filled and they are definitely welded on. However, I am wanting to know before I do more if going on the four setting will be right and not damage anything. Three just doesn't seem to cut it.
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post Mar 23 2009, 10:23 AM
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I learned to weld body metal with a ac stick welder. There is a stitch welder attachment for the stick welder, I bought one but decided to just go to the mig instead and now tig.

Take two pieces of the new metal or some of the same thickness and practice lap welding on them with the settings. With one good piece and one thinner piece you can start the arc on the thicker piece and mostly stay on it and go off the edge to the thinner piece to melt it but not blow through. The max amp will be what you can use to get good penetration but not blow through the thinner metal. Welding rusted metal will never be pretty and usually requires a lot of griding, just hopefully you will get good and strong welds and they won't crack in about 3 yrs. Usually if it's going to crack it will happen right as it's cooling off from uneven cooling.

When it blows through you can stop and start with small spot welds and build the edges up till they are heavy enough to hold the full heat of a continuous weld. As you weld the surrounding metal will get to where the red glow doesn't dissipate as quickly as it needs to so you need to go to another spot and work there till it gets too hot and so on.

The longer cord doesn't sound too good to me but it's your equipment. That will mean the cord is dropping some of the amperage and that means the plugs and extension wire will run hotter and also the electrical parts in the welder maybe and so on.

Copper or any heat sink that the mild steel won't stick to, backup works great if you can get to the backside.

Also I don't have or know about 110v welders but hopefully you are using .023 wire.
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Phoenix 914-6GT   Welding question   Mar 22 2009, 10:17 PM
So.Cal.914   I know this is going to sound silly but run a hund...   Mar 22 2009, 10:25 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Really? :confused: Now what kind of extension co...   Mar 22 2009, 10:28 PM
So.Cal.914   Really? :confused: Now what kind of extension c...   Mar 22 2009, 10:57 PM
PanelBilly   If you turn it up to 4 can't you increase the ...   Mar 22 2009, 10:43 PM
brant   the extension cord is actually good advice. or......   Mar 22 2009, 10:49 PM
PanelBilly   I thought more wire reduced the heat?   Mar 22 2009, 10:53 PM
brant   I thought more wire reduced the heat? I find t...   Mar 22 2009, 11:20 PM
dbgriffith75   I know this is going to sound silly but run a hun...   Mar 22 2009, 11:02 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Thankfully it is a 110 and I already have some hea...   Mar 22 2009, 11:08 PM
PanelBilly   Isn't the longer extention cord going to blow ...   Mar 22 2009, 11:08 PM
sixnotfour   starting point download here; http://www.hobartwel...   Mar 22 2009, 11:08 PM
PanelBilly   Instructions, aren't they like asking for dire...   Mar 22 2009, 11:17 PM
sixnotfour   Ya But better than filling his tub full of holes. ...   Mar 22 2009, 11:20 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   :Qarl: Thanks Jeff and others :beer2:   Mar 22 2009, 11:26 PM
PanelBilly   It would just burn back into the tip. I guess I ...   Mar 22 2009, 11:28 PM
sean_v8_914   here are some tricks of the trade to help prevent ...   Mar 23 2009, 01:19 AM
sean_v8_914   pre-heat the area with a torch. it does several th...   Mar 23 2009, 01:21 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   So are you saying if I have it on four but slow th...   Mar 23 2009, 01:22 AM
sean_v8_914   not that simple. teh wire speed and voltage must m...   Mar 23 2009, 01:39 AM
stock93   Now you have learned why people spend the money on...   Mar 23 2009, 06:04 AM
jmill   I'm with Panelbilly on this one. If it's ...   Mar 23 2009, 10:18 AM
Bartlett 914   I'm with Panelbilly on this one. If it's...   Mar 23 2009, 12:09 PM
charliew   I learned to weld body metal with a ac stick welde...   Mar 23 2009, 10:23 AM
Vacca Rabite   My welder will not even operate if I don't use...   Mar 23 2009, 10:29 AM
9146986   P R A C T I C E Since you don't have an inf...   Mar 29 2009, 01:20 PM
jimkelly   wedding - don't do it man. oh - welding - nev...   Mar 29 2009, 03:16 PM
scotty b   :agree: W. Sean. Forget about a longer cord. Learn...   Mar 29 2009, 05:45 PM
Racer Chris   If the heat on #4 is too hot, try the interrupted ...   Mar 29 2009, 06:10 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Learned that much of what I was doing was crap bec...   Mar 29 2009, 09:23 PM
pktzygt   Learned that much of what I was doing was crap be...   Mar 30 2009, 07:28 AM
dlestep   ...I use argon/co2 mix shield gas...my settings ar...   Mar 30 2009, 08:46 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Thanks Dave. That's good, useful advice :beer2...   Mar 30 2009, 09:12 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Hey JP, do you know a guy named Matt Noreen? He us...   Apr 1 2009, 01:07 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Okay, I got most of the vertical welding finished ...   Apr 2 2009, 02:35 PM
charliew   I hate to say it but you need to turn the heat dow...   Apr 2 2009, 02:41 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Really? :confused: But wouldn't it have an is...   Apr 2 2009, 05:08 PM
J P Stein   Nope, Jon, I don't know him. For overhead, l...   Apr 2 2009, 05:16 PM
r_towle   Leather stove gloves (HD sells them) reach out and...   Apr 2 2009, 05:36 PM
sean_v8_914   leather is your friend. dont wear tennis shoes. th...   Apr 2 2009, 10:44 PM
effutuo101   :agree: kind of like throwing water on a magnesiu...   Apr 3 2009, 10:44 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Q...   Apr 3 2009, 10:56 PM
jcambo7   :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: :...   Apr 3 2009, 11:17 PM


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