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| FourBlades |
 Apr 4 2009, 01:31 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin  Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States 
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I was test fitting my doors before painting them and noticed this:
Driver side.  Passenger side. Attached image(s) 
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| FourBlades |
Apr 5 2009, 11:52 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States
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Charlie, Thanks for the suggestions. I was hoping to help other people to avoid this problem by show casing my own error. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I also thought some World member would know what to do to fix it, and I still do. I am pretty sure I read on some forum that a guy had this problem and some old time body men fixed it by heating it up but I can't find the post anymore. OK, just for reference, I spent about four hours on welding in all three pieces of my Engman kit. I used a Hobart Handler 140 amp machine set on 3 for heat and 50 for wire speed (this is pretty hot for sheet metal on this machine). I welded all the rosettes, and also seam welded a lot of the openings, edges, and joints where the pieces meet. I did most of it in one session, but some of the final seam welding I did the next day. I welded 4-5 rosettes and then waited 5 minutes or so to cool off, then welded some more. It was probably a 75 degree day when I did it. I tried Rich's suggestion of using a jack to spread the door opening. It maybe got me another 1/16 or so but was starting to buckle the rear fender near the back of the door. I was using 2x4s on the door pillars. I probably need to make carefully shaped cauls (pieces of wood) that match the door pillar shape to spread the load more and have a second person pull out on the rear fender. I can live with this if I can't fix it...first time I hit a tire wall at Sebring I hope it is on the passenger side. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Thanks again for all the suggestions... John |
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| horizontally-opposed |
Apr 6 2009, 10:10 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,456 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(FourBlades @ Apr 5 2009, 10:52 AM)  I am pretty sure I read on some forum that a guy had this problem and some old time body men fixed it by heating it up but I can't find the post anymore. Might have been me. Though it wasn't nearly as bad as what you're dealing with. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...80724&st=80 See post #85 pete |
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FourBlades Door gaps are not even any more! Apr 4 2009, 01:31 PM
FourBlades The gaps were ok before I welded in my Engman kit.... Apr 4 2009, 01:35 PM
ConeDodger
The gaps were ok before I welded in my Engman kit... Apr 4 2009, 01:48 PM
SirAndy
I have also heard of putting bracing in the door ... Apr 4 2009, 02:02 PM SirAndy
Now WTF do I do???
Put the car on a lift, open t... Apr 4 2009, 02:05 PM FourBlades > Put the car on a lift, open the doors and use... Apr 4 2009, 02:12 PM FourBlades I did use a brace bolted to the upper seat belt mo... Apr 4 2009, 02:09 PM SirAndy
Any measurements I could do using simple tools to... Apr 4 2009, 02:36 PM Richard Casto
I did use a brace bolted to the upper seat belt m... Apr 6 2009, 09:19 AM JazonJJordan
I did use a brace bolted to the upper seat belt m... Jul 29 2009, 11:03 AM Bartlett 914 I feel your pain. I repaired my 75 when I got it i... Apr 4 2009, 03:11 PM FourBlades Thanks man...did you have any trouble getting your... Apr 4 2009, 03:26 PM sww914 It will be very difficult or impossible to find an... Apr 4 2009, 03:48 PM FourBlades According to wikipedia, steel expands .00000645 in... Apr 4 2009, 04:03 PM Wes V I've got a question for the author of this str... Apr 4 2009, 05:45 PM FourBlades Wes,
This is a really good question. I went out ... Apr 4 2009, 06:14 PM drive-ability I had that happen as well when I installed some st... Apr 4 2009, 06:43 PM r_towle The A pillar, at least the part that the door hing... Apr 4 2009, 07:29 PM FourBlades Rich,
Thanks for the suggestion. Have you tried ... Apr 4 2009, 07:40 PM r_towle Yes I have done it.
Push on the outer rear b-pilla... Apr 4 2009, 07:53 PM FourBlades OK, cool, I will try it tomorrow.
Thanks....John Apr 4 2009, 08:23 PM Bartlett 914 :popcorn: Apr 5 2009, 11:08 AM charliew I would think the passenger side will be easier to... Apr 5 2009, 11:28 AM Richard Casto
I am pretty sure I read on some forum that a guy... Apr 7 2009, 06:54 AM charliew About thirty years ago I torch welded the floors i... Apr 5 2009, 12:13 PM Wes V I'm trying to get my mind around this whole ... Apr 6 2009, 09:08 AM McMark
In my experience, this is the problem, John. I r... Apr 6 2009, 09:56 AM andys When I welded my Engman kit, I measured my door ga... Apr 6 2009, 10:39 AM 6freak
I was test fitting my doors before painting them ... Apr 6 2009, 10:42 AM FourBlades Mark: I did a fair amount of seam welding on mine... Apr 6 2009, 11:52 AM horizontally-opposed
How did your guy know
where to jack up your car? ... Apr 6 2009, 12:33 PM Wes V I think something to think about would be to do on... Apr 6 2009, 03:01 PM Wes V
Fortunately, he knew what he was doing and was ab... Apr 6 2009, 03:03 PM horizontally-opposed
Fortunately, he knew what he was doing and was a... Apr 6 2009, 03:39 PM FourBlades Mr. C: I was wondering about that too. If I neede... Apr 6 2009, 11:56 AM 6freak
Mr. C: I was wondering about that too. If I need... Apr 6 2009, 12:30 PM FourBlades Slim line hinges may work....hmm..
Great, windows... Apr 6 2009, 02:56 PM burton73 John,
Your post was freaking me out all weekend. ... Apr 6 2009, 03:20 PM FourBlades Bob: Your door gap looks pretty good. Sounds lik... Apr 6 2009, 05:58 PM r_towle So,
To use a hydraulic unit to spread the door, y... Apr 6 2009, 06:33 PM FourBlades Rich,
Which part of the rear door jamb do you res... Apr 6 2009, 06:52 PM r_towle outer edge so you are pushing against the fender (... Apr 6 2009, 07:14 PM charliew Adding the material will fix the small door but I... Apr 6 2009, 07:18 PM Wes V It sure would be nice if somebody stepped up with ... Apr 6 2009, 07:56 PM FourBlades Richard,
I think I made the same mistake when I p... Apr 7 2009, 07:44 AM Richard Casto John,
I think part of the problem is that if I kn... Apr 7 2009, 08:13 AM charliew Welding never spreads any structure. It will alway... Apr 7 2009, 10:08 AM Richard Casto
Welding never spreads any structure. It will alwa... Apr 7 2009, 12:55 PM charliew The fact that the engman kit covers the top and in... Apr 7 2009, 01:12 PM Bartlett 914
Heating the driver side bottom might help close j... Apr 7 2009, 01:30 PM charliew
Heating the driver side bottom might help close ... Apr 8 2009, 12:18 AM McMark John, I've used a PortaPower between the front... Apr 7 2009, 05:48 PM atomix8 I realize I'm thread hijacking, AND pulling ou... Jul 27 2009, 07:54 PM tracks914 Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low at ... Jul 28 2009, 08:46 PM atomix8
Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low at... Jul 29 2009, 05:42 PM r_towle
Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low a... Jul 29 2009, 07:12 PM rick 918-S
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