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| solex |
Apr 19 2009, 05:52 PM
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I recently performed a top end rebuild on my engine with:
At about 150 miles I started to hear a knock at idle, sounded like it was coming from #2. The sound seemed to be some what reduced when the plug wire was disconnected. At 200 miles I decided to do some more investigation; during oil change I noticed that there was a sludge / silvery substance on the oil strainer plate and decided to tear it down, thinking that there was a problem with a rod bearing. The first thing I noticed was some rubbing on the #4 exhaust push rod. I removed the heads and noticed that there was cylinder scoring on the tops and bottoms, remove the cylinders and saw the tops and bottom were worn... this must be the source of the silvery sludge. Attached are some pictures. No what do I do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Dan Attached image(s)
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| Jake Raby |
Apr 19 2009, 06:13 PM
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Looks like the cylinder/ piston wasn't cleaned well enough prior to assembly. That looks like a lot of wear for only 150 miles... Did you check the cylinder/piston clearance before assembly?
I have heard some complaints that the new Mahle sets are too tight out of the box, but since we don't use these I have not experienced it. It takes quite a bit of an issue to create an audible slap from a piston/cylinder.... Those case through bolts don't look like they have been removed in a looooong time.. I would imagine that you snuck in a set of rods and rod bearings without splitting the case, based on your post and the pics. This is quite risky, as you can't mic the rod journals for size or ovality.. I'd be puling those rod bearings, especially #2... I'd be willing to bet thats where the sludge came from and where the noise is coming from.. I have seen instances when a rod bearing was going south and fed dirty oil up the bore, resulting in the type of wear that you have pictured. |
solex Piston Slap? Apr 19 2009, 05:52 PM
r_towle are there any markings on these "NOS" pi... Apr 19 2009, 06:21 PM
solex Yes Jake I take a number of short cuts and am now ... Apr 19 2009, 06:30 PM
r_towle
Yes Jake I take a number of short cuts and am now... Apr 19 2009, 06:32 PM
Jake Raby Yep.. Most every time that people try to "get... Apr 19 2009, 06:39 PM
solex As you can imagine I'm kicking myself. :headba... Apr 19 2009, 06:59 PM
Jake Raby The pics aren't showing anything notable... Fe... Apr 19 2009, 07:08 PM
solex
That pin looks like it was stuck in the rod. was ... Apr 19 2009, 07:17 PM
Jake Raby Not tomorrow.. I am scheduled on the dyno all day ... Apr 19 2009, 07:24 PM
solex
I can talk to you on my way home tomorrow night, ... Apr 19 2009, 07:30 PM
r_towle It looks like the rod bearing spun...or is that ju... Apr 19 2009, 07:28 PM
solex
It looks like the rod bearing spun...or is that j... Apr 19 2009, 07:33 PM
Jake Raby I thought the bearing had spun as well, but only o... Apr 19 2009, 07:40 PM
solex
I thought the bearing had spun as well, but only ... Apr 19 2009, 07:44 PM
jmill Did you change the lifters out? Wonder if you swa... Apr 20 2009, 07:23 AM
solex
Did you change the lifters out? Wonder if you sw... Apr 20 2009, 07:37 AM
solex After splitting the case, looks like I have some c... Apr 22 2009, 07:53 PM
r_towle looks like possibly the case did not close correct... Apr 22 2009, 07:56 PM
solex Rich,
I think the dowels and bearings were all lin... Apr 22 2009, 08:33 PM![]() ![]() |
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