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> Thinking of a V8---PART II, Ok, so whats the best route if.......
ninefourteener
post Feb 4 2004, 03:26 PM
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I was reading the post on the "Thinking of a V8" topic.... and although the thought sounds great, I can't justify spending that kind of cash on all the upgrades required.

Nor can I justify discarding a brand new (under 10K miles) on my 2.0, with over $5k in reciepts on the buildup. I feel confident that my engine runs well into the 110-120hp range

HOWEVER.... the thought of upgrading to a MUCH more powerful motor is a cool idea. When I say "much", I mean up above the 225hp range.

So.. are there options? Can I buy a 2.0 with that kind of power? If so, where? Is there another engine that will bolt right in without major modifications?

Forgive my ignorance.... but before teeners, I did 70's GM stuff..... if you want a bigger engine, you buy one, bolt it in, and you're done. Supercharger? Bolt it on...... Nitrous?? Bolt it on.

So..... help me out here..... Lets assume I wanna go a lot faster, but I'm not looking to add radiators, modify transmissions, driveshafts, suspension, etc.

What does a guy do?? I'm curious to hear some responses on this.
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post Feb 4 2004, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(ninefourteener @ Feb 4 2004, 01:26 PM)
... I mean up above the 225hp range.

Can I buy a 2.0 with that kind of power?

... before teeners, I did 70's GM stuff..... Bolt it on.

...assume I wanna go a lot faster, but I'm not looking to add radiators, modify transmissions, driveshafts, suspension, etc.

you're not going to get 115 HP/liter normally aspirated - certainly not for long. Porsche's 906 engine was a 2,0 /6 and made about 210 very peaky HP at 9600 rpm. "power adders" are another matter. for how long do you want your 275 HP ? longer than a 10-sec dragstrip run ? you need to find a better way than stock air cooling to reject a shitload of heat...

if you're determined to stay aircooled, 911 engines in the 3,2 range will get you there. if you don't mind adding a turbo, the 3,0 911 Turbo ('930') becomes a possibility.

it's been a while since Porsche left gobs of power on the table on purpose...

if you're determined to stay with a 4, you'll need displacement, lots of it. i gather this is possible nowadays but the $/HP ratio never seems to change that much...

only you can decide what kind of life you need -- F1 engines have been cranking in excess of 200 HP/liter for a long time - but the crankshaft life of an F1 car is 6-8 hours. (Top Fuel/Funny Cars, of course, produce about 500 HP/cubic inch - on nitromethane, and have engine life measured in feet...)

GM -did- leave HP on the table, which is another way of saying their stuff was a lot heavier than it had to be. ours isn't... and water gives you a lot more headroom to work with. transmissions and driveline components like clutches are pretty well sized for the power available in the car they came in. to a point, bigger is available. but it's not reasonable to want more power than the drive components are capable of and expect reliability.

and if you really mean 'faster' and not 'quicker' - at some point you need to be concerned about brakes and the speed ratings on your tires ...
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ninefourteener   Thinking of a V8---PART II   Feb 4 2004, 03:26 PM
seanery   220 hp? bolt in? 1. -6 2. big jake-type motor   Feb 4 2004, 03:35 PM
RocknRollFrenzy   seems to me that if you don't want to add a ra...   Feb 4 2004, 03:36 PM
tat2dphreak   Jake Raby is the guy you want... he can get 200+ f...   Feb 4 2004, 03:38 PM
!   Buy someone else's project.....Malmz has "Sasq...   Feb 4 2004, 03:40 PM
ArtechnikA     Feb 4 2004, 06:41 PM
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