 Mocal vs Tilton oils cooler pumps, One better than the other? |
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| pcar916 |
 Jul 6 2009, 08:21 AM
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Is that a Lola?  Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None 
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I'm adding a cooler and pump to my transmission. These two pumps are similar in specification and both companies have been around a long time.
Tilton: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-40-524/ Mocal: http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product...ial_Cooler_Pump I know several of you run Jabsco Water Puppy pumps, but I see no advantage to it over the Mocal or Tilton. Anyone out there with experience as to whether one is more reliable than the other? |
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| ArtechnikA |
Jul 6 2009, 09:00 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(pcar916 @ Jul 6 2009, 10:21 AM)  I'm adding a cooler and pump to my transmission. These two pumps are similar in specification and both companies have been around a long time. Anyone out there with experience as to whether one is more reliable than the other? I've never used either but I do read a lot of spec sheets ;-) Ordinarily my personal preference would be for the Tilton over the Mocal, for no reasons I can readily quantify. but a 265°F max temp limit for the Tilton would be scary, I think, for a track car (and if it's not a track car, why would you need a cooler?). The Mocal does claim 300°F max temp. I've bought from both vendors with no issues so that's not a differentiating help either... |
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| pcar916 |
Jul 6 2009, 09:11 AM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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QUOTE but a 265°F max temp limit for the Tilton would be scary, I think, for a track car (and if it's not a track car, why would you need a cooler?). The Mocal does claim 300°F max temp. I haven't tested the transaxle fluid temps in my car yet, but today I'll point an infrared thermometer at it after several spirited runs up a local steep and twisty grade. just to get a feel, but 265°F degree transmission fluid scares me no matter what. What track temps are expected with a clutch type LSD? |
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| ArtechnikA |
Jul 6 2009, 09:17 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(pcar916 @ Jul 6 2009, 11:11 AM) 265°F degree transmission fluid scares me no matter what. What track temps are expected with a clutch type LSD? I agree, which is why I think it'd really suck if the pump died at 266... If you figure a conservative 10% power loss in the drivetrain, it means if you 've got a 200HP engine, the transmission is making as much heat as a 20HP motor... Also figure the transmission is aft of the engine and over the exhaust. I believe (but do not have the instrumentation to prove (yet) that mid-200's temps are common and 300's are possible. |
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pcar916 Mocal vs Tilton oils cooler pumps Jul 6 2009, 08:21 AM
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Did ... Jul 9 2009, 09:44 AM ArtechnikA
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