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| pcar916 |
Jul 6 2009, 08:21 AM
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Is that a Lola? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,524 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None
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I'm adding a cooler and pump to my transmission. These two pumps are similar in specification and both companies have been around a long time.
Tilton: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-40-524/ Mocal: http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product...ial_Cooler_Pump I know several of you run Jabsco Water Puppy pumps, but I see no advantage to it over the Mocal or Tilton. Anyone out there with experience as to whether one is more reliable than the other? |
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| john rogers |
Jul 7 2009, 12:15 AM
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I would recommend calling several shops that RACE vintage 911s and 914s with high revving engines and see what they use and recommend. I bought a complete setup from Jim Patrick in Phoenix as I didn't have a lot of time to run around and gather up all the bits and pieces. Several things to note:
- Yes you have to open the case so you can drill and tap for the nozzle over the ring and pinion as that is the heaviest loaded on a race box. As noted the limited slip also does generate a bunch of heat AND you do not want to have any chance of chips left in the case. - The direction of oil spray is immaterial as any excess will splash off the gears and not cause any type of hydraulic locking or such. Just make sure one goes on top of the R&P - You will need to add a closed vent run to your puke tank since you will be running an extra quart of trans oil (4 total now) to make up for the new plumbing, cooler, etc. - Add a switch so you can turn the pump on/off or leave it run after you shut off the engine when done with a race group. - Most 914s I have seen put the cooler in the floor of the rear trunk and vent air into it and out the botom. I added a small boat type axial fan to help out when it is really hot. - Use stainless braided lines for the suction and returns since they are in a position at the rear that gets a lot of abuse from road stuff. - Patrick sells a replacement plug for a temp gauge so you can see what the trans temp is doing, very handy to have. I had run a cooling system for 5 years since putting the six in the race car and never broke a gear box and the ones that Wayne Baker, Frank Beck and Jim Patrick all raced never experienced any failures as far as I know. |
pcar916 Mocal vs Tilton oils cooler pumps Jul 6 2009, 08:21 AM
ArtechnikA
I'm adding a cooler and pump to my transmissi... Jul 6 2009, 09:00 AM
pcar916
I haven't tested the transaxle fluid temps in... Jul 6 2009, 09:11 AM
ArtechnikA
265°F degree transmission fluid scares me no mat... Jul 6 2009, 09:17 AM
pcar916
265°F degree transmission fluid scares me no ma... Jul 6 2009, 10:07 AM
puff adder I've read about cooling systems with spray bar... Jul 6 2009, 06:47 PM
ArtechnikA
I've read about cooling systems with spray ba... Jul 6 2009, 07:25 PM
puff adder Thanks for the info.
I guess I'm more intere... Jul 6 2009, 08:39 PM
pcar916 You could do it if you ignored squirters on the ge... Jul 6 2009, 09:21 PM
stownsen914
If you decide to install squirters, don't mak... Jul 7 2009, 08:00 AM
pcar916
If you decide to install squirters, don't ma... Jul 7 2009, 09:09 AM
stownsen914
[quote name='stownsen914' post='1189240' date='Ju... Jul 8 2009, 05:30 AM
Downunderman If you are running a 6 a sportomatic pump off the ... Jul 7 2009, 12:48 AM
pcar916 Downunderman...
- I have a power take-off on the ... Jul 7 2009, 09:38 AM
john rogers If you hook up the plumbing system you might be su... Jul 7 2009, 10:26 AM
pcar916
If you hook up the plumbing system you might be s... Jul 7 2009, 11:03 AM
john rogers I guess I am getting old as I forgot to mention to... Jul 7 2009, 11:34 AM
pcar916
I guess I am getting old as I forgot to mention t... Jul 7 2009, 03:44 PM
jt914-6 I've got a brass 1/2" female one way valv... Jul 7 2009, 05:14 PM
pcar916
I've got a brass 1/2" female one way val... Jul 7 2009, 05:48 PM
Downunderman I have been using the sporto pump for a couple of ... Jul 7 2009, 05:28 PM
pcar916
I have been using the sporto pump for a couple of... Jul 7 2009, 06:21 PM
pcar916 Spraying on the individual gears is good, just not... Jul 8 2009, 07:38 AM
stownsen914
Spraying on the individual gears is good, just no... Jul 9 2009, 05:12 AM
Downunderman Ron,
You should be able to find a sporto pump lay... Jul 8 2009, 09:03 PM
john rogers Remember, if the lube and cooler pump is engine dr... Jul 8 2009, 11:14 PM
puff adder Where is the cooler itself usually mounted?
Did ... Jul 9 2009, 09:44 AM
ArtechnikA
Where is the cooler itself usually mounted?
Cooli... Jul 9 2009, 11:07 AM
pcar916 Excellent discussion and why I like this forum. I... Jul 9 2009, 11:12 AM
Downunderman Here are some photos for posterity. Before it had... Jul 10 2009, 03:21 PM
pcar916 You realize your car is far too clean right? Nice ... Jul 11 2009, 08:02 AM
maf914 I remember reading in 24:16: Le Mans 24 Hours that... Jul 15 2009, 03:17 PM
john rogers Here are a couple of picts of the setup I had and ... Jul 15 2009, 03:31 PM
pcar916 Simple... fan underneath or scoop only? Jul 15 2009, 10:21 PM
john rogers An axial boat ventilation fan was added after thes... Jul 16 2009, 12:55 AM
pcar916
An axial boat ventilation fan was added after the... Jul 16 2009, 07:54 PM![]() ![]() |
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