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> Door gaps are not even any more!, Now what???
FourBlades
post Apr 4 2009, 01:31 PM
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I was test fitting my doors before painting them and noticed this:

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post Jul 28 2009, 08:46 PM
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Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low at the back. You can see this in the lines at the top and bottom.
Try raising your striker plate at bit and put some shims under your bottom door hinge. You might want to try a washer between the hinge and the pillar just to test this theory.
Raising your door (at the back) will increase the gap at the bottom and hopefully close it a bit at the top.
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post Jul 29 2009, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(tracks914 @ Jul 28 2009, 10:46 PM) *

Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low at the back. You can see this in the lines at the top and bottom.
Try raising your striker plate at bit and put some shims under your bottom door hinge. You might want to try a washer between the hinge and the pillar just to test this theory.
Raising your door (at the back) will increase the gap at the bottom and hopefully close it a bit at the top.


Doug, was this in reply to my problem? I'm confused, but hopeful...

If I put shims under the bottom door hinge (between the hinge and the body of the car, correct?), won't that push the door farther "back" and thereby close the gap even further?

I can see your point about lifting the bottom of the door this way, but it seems like this would close the gap at the bottom of the door.
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(atomix8 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:42 PM) *

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Jul 28 2009, 10:46 PM) *

Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low at the back. You can see this in the lines at the top and bottom.
Try raising your striker plate at bit and put some shims under your bottom door hinge. You might want to try a washer between the hinge and the pillar just to test this theory.
Raising your door (at the back) will increase the gap at the bottom and hopefully close it a bit at the top.


Doug, was this in reply to my problem? I'm confused, but hopeful...

If I put shims under the bottom door hinge (between the hinge and the body of the car, correct?), won't that push the door farther "back" and thereby close the gap even further?

I can see your point about lifting the bottom of the door this way, but it seems like this would close the gap at the bottom of the door.


Stop thinking like a house door.
Your problem is simple....raise the whole door about 1/8 of an inch.
First....
remove the inner panel...adjust the main front window track so its tipping out at the top...it wont fit when we are done as it is and you could break something...so please follow this advice.
There is an adjuster on the bottom of the door....tip the front window track away from the centerline of the car....alot. Go all the way to the end of the adjustment for the moment.

Then, close the door...feel the top of the fender versus the top of the door right at the front...the door is lower than the fender.
Loosen the hinges and raise the door up about 1/8 of an inch..tighten it and test you door gap...dont worry about the window.

As you raise the door, the lower door gap will get wider based upon the geometry.
You want the part everyone sees...the door gap and the top of the rear edge of the door to be perfect....most people wont see the front, they will see the back.

Once that ir right...go adjust your window slowly back into place.

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post Jul 29 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 29 2009, 05:12 PM) *

QUOTE(atomix8 @ Jul 29 2009, 07:42 PM) *

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Jul 28 2009, 10:46 PM) *

Yours looks easy to fix.
Your door is too low at the back. You can see this in the lines at the top and bottom.
Try raising your striker plate at bit and put some shims under your bottom door hinge. You might want to try a washer between the hinge and the pillar just to test this theory.
Raising your door (at the back) will increase the gap at the bottom and hopefully close it a bit at the top.


Doug, was this in reply to my problem? I'm confused, but hopeful...

If I put shims under the bottom door hinge (between the hinge and the body of the car, correct?), won't that push the door farther "back" and thereby close the gap even further?



I can see your point about lifting the bottom of the door this way, but it seems like this would close the gap at the bottom of the door.


Stop thinking like a house door.
Your problem is simple....raise the whole door about 1/8 of an inch.
First....
remove the inner panel...adjust the main front window track so its tipping out at the top...it wont fit when we are done as it is and you could break something...so please follow this advice.
There is an adjuster on the bottom of the door....tip the front window track away from the centerline of the car....alot. Go all the way to the end of the adjustment for the moment.

Then, close the door...feel the top of the fender versus the top of the door right at the front...the door is lower than the fender.
Loosen the hinges and raise the door up about 1/8 of an inch..tighten it and test you door gap...dont worry about the window.

As you raise the door, the lower door gap will get wider based upon the geometry.
You want the part everyone sees...the door gap and the top of the rear edge of the door to be perfect....most people wont see the front, they will see the back.

Once that ir right...go adjust your window slowly back into place.

Rich


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But show us your front gap. (door to fender) I bet that's off too.
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FourBlades   Door gaps are not even any more!   Apr 4 2009, 01:31 PM
FourBlades   The gaps were ok before I welded in my Engman kit....   Apr 4 2009, 01:35 PM
ConeDodger   The gaps were ok before I welded in my Engman kit...   Apr 4 2009, 01:48 PM
SirAndy   I have also heard of putting bracing in the door ...   Apr 4 2009, 02:02 PM
SirAndy   Now WTF do I do??? Put the car on a lift, open t...   Apr 4 2009, 02:05 PM
FourBlades   > Put the car on a lift, open the doors and use...   Apr 4 2009, 02:12 PM
FourBlades   I did use a brace bolted to the upper seat belt mo...   Apr 4 2009, 02:09 PM
SirAndy   Any measurements I could do using simple tools to...   Apr 4 2009, 02:36 PM
Richard Casto   I did use a brace bolted to the upper seat belt m...   Apr 6 2009, 09:19 AM
JazonJJordan   I did use a brace bolted to the upper seat belt m...   Jul 29 2009, 11:03 AM
Bartlett 914   I feel your pain. I repaired my 75 when I got it i...   Apr 4 2009, 03:11 PM
FourBlades   Thanks man...did you have any trouble getting your...   Apr 4 2009, 03:26 PM
sww914   It will be very difficult or impossible to find an...   Apr 4 2009, 03:48 PM
FourBlades   According to wikipedia, steel expands .00000645 in...   Apr 4 2009, 04:03 PM
Wes V   I've got a question for the author of this str...   Apr 4 2009, 05:45 PM
FourBlades   Wes, This is a really good question. I went out ...   Apr 4 2009, 06:14 PM
drive-ability   I had that happen as well when I installed some st...   Apr 4 2009, 06:43 PM
r_towle   The A pillar, at least the part that the door hing...   Apr 4 2009, 07:29 PM
FourBlades   Rich, Thanks for the suggestion. Have you tried ...   Apr 4 2009, 07:40 PM
r_towle   Yes I have done it. Push on the outer rear b-pilla...   Apr 4 2009, 07:53 PM
FourBlades   OK, cool, I will try it tomorrow. Thanks....John   Apr 4 2009, 08:23 PM
Bartlett 914   :popcorn:   Apr 5 2009, 11:08 AM
charliew   I would think the passenger side will be easier to...   Apr 5 2009, 11:28 AM
FourBlades   Charlie, Thanks for the suggestions. I was hopi...   Apr 5 2009, 11:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   I am pretty sure I read on some forum that a guy ...   Apr 6 2009, 10:10 AM
Richard Casto   I am pretty sure I read on some forum that a guy...   Apr 7 2009, 06:54 AM
charliew   About thirty years ago I torch welded the floors i...   Apr 5 2009, 12:13 PM
Wes V   I'm trying to get my mind around this whole ...   Apr 6 2009, 09:08 AM
McMark   In my experience, this is the problem, John. I r...   Apr 6 2009, 09:56 AM
andys   When I welded my Engman kit, I measured my door ga...   Apr 6 2009, 10:39 AM
6freak   I was test fitting my doors before painting them ...   Apr 6 2009, 10:42 AM
FourBlades   Mark: I did a fair amount of seam welding on mine...   Apr 6 2009, 11:52 AM
horizontally-opposed   How did your guy know where to jack up your car? ...   Apr 6 2009, 12:33 PM
Wes V   I think something to think about would be to do on...   Apr 6 2009, 03:01 PM
Wes V   Fortunately, he knew what he was doing and was ab...   Apr 6 2009, 03:03 PM
horizontally-opposed   Fortunately, he knew what he was doing and was a...   Apr 6 2009, 03:39 PM
FourBlades   Mr. C: I was wondering about that too. If I neede...   Apr 6 2009, 11:56 AM
6freak   Mr. C: I was wondering about that too. If I need...   Apr 6 2009, 12:30 PM
FourBlades   Slim line hinges may work....hmm.. Great, windows...   Apr 6 2009, 02:56 PM
burton73   John, Your post was freaking me out all weekend. ...   Apr 6 2009, 03:20 PM
FourBlades   Bob: Your door gap looks pretty good. Sounds lik...   Apr 6 2009, 05:58 PM
r_towle   So, To use a hydraulic unit to spread the door, y...   Apr 6 2009, 06:33 PM
FourBlades   Rich, Which part of the rear door jamb do you res...   Apr 6 2009, 06:52 PM
r_towle   outer edge so you are pushing against the fender (...   Apr 6 2009, 07:14 PM
charliew   Adding the material will fix the small door but I...   Apr 6 2009, 07:18 PM
Wes V   It sure would be nice if somebody stepped up with ...   Apr 6 2009, 07:56 PM
FourBlades   Richard, I think I made the same mistake when I p...   Apr 7 2009, 07:44 AM
Richard Casto   John, I think part of the problem is that if I kn...   Apr 7 2009, 08:13 AM
charliew   Welding never spreads any structure. It will alway...   Apr 7 2009, 10:08 AM
Richard Casto   Welding never spreads any structure. It will alwa...   Apr 7 2009, 12:55 PM
charliew   The fact that the engman kit covers the top and in...   Apr 7 2009, 01:12 PM
Bartlett 914   Heating the driver side bottom might help close j...   Apr 7 2009, 01:30 PM
charliew   Heating the driver side bottom might help close ...   Apr 8 2009, 12:18 AM
McMark   John, I've used a PortaPower between the front...   Apr 7 2009, 05:48 PM
atomix8   I realize I'm thread hijacking, AND pulling ou...   Jul 27 2009, 07:54 PM
tracks914   Yours looks easy to fix. Your door is too low at ...   Jul 28 2009, 08:46 PM
atomix8   Yours looks easy to fix. Your door is too low at...   Jul 29 2009, 05:42 PM
r_towle   Yours looks easy to fix. Your door is too low a...   Jul 29 2009, 07:12 PM
rick 918-S   [quote name='atomix8' post='1196947' date='Jul 29...   Jul 29 2009, 08:16 PM


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