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> Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed., Need a better option.....Love my water to air, but open
budman5201
post Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
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As all you probably know, i have a ej20 turbo subaru in my car. I love it and it runs great, but now i am at the point where i want to streamline how well the system works.......

First matter of attention is the intercooler placement. I have a small water to air intercooler tucked in front of the pulley on my subaru motor. It works great, but i am getting a little too much heat soak on the aluminum tubes leading to it. I was debating an idea of putting it in the rear trunk or in the fender since placement wouldnt be a factor because its a water to air. I do like the one members ORANGE nice turbo car on 914world here with the air/air one in the back and vent in the wing.....

Looking for ideas....


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post Jul 31 2009, 06:41 AM
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All true, except Budman's car has a watercooled engine and no more engine tin, meaning the air will flow through the engine compartment basically without impediment and probably from high pressure to low. That makes the student's statement "The results of the engine compartment were consistent with the expected result. Air flowed up through the compartment for all configurations" very curious. Curious because their professor's car was aircooled, meaning air flow through the engine compartment could only have been top to bottom, from the cooling fan intake above to hot air exhaust below. This is from the presentation summary and I didn't see a link to the full report, so maybe the "for all configurations" is explained better there.

I'm interested because my car has the same WRX engine with an aftermarket air/air intercooler on top. It's a little different in that I vented the IC opening like this:

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In the future I intend to replace the expanded metal on the lid with solid metal, sort of the reverse of doing a GT lid, so the only opening will be for the intercooler. Then I'll do my own tuft testing to see which way the air is being drawn through the engine compartment (high pressure to low) then add a spoiler or two to "encourage" more of that natural flow. For example if the air is flowing up because the lowest pressure is being created by the drop of the top behind the rear window I'll try to increase that flow by putting a little duck tail on the rear of the targa top to create more low pressure there. If it's flowing downward I'll try to increase it by putting a flexible duck tail across the bottom of the car just below the front of the engine compartment. With the closed decklid the intention is to channel all the top to bottom or bottom to top airflow through the only opening, which will be that intercooler cutout.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the flow with fans works out. Just in case. In the meantime I've limited boost to 10 lbs. Also just in case.
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budman5201   Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed.   Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
budman5201   another   Jul 29 2009, 06:10 PM
ghuff   Wrap your heat tubes with nasa gold reflective foi...   Jul 29 2009, 06:42 PM
ottox914   Don't know how much space you have above the i...   Jul 30 2009, 08:13 AM
d914   I have the same idea but instead of sucking I was ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:20 AM
Rand   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:26 AM
d914   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in...   Jul 30 2009, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   airflow studies have been done by someone aroun...   Jul 30 2009, 02:52 PM
d914   [quote name='d914' post='1197233' date='Jul 30 20...   Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM
iamchappy   As you mentioned, i put mine in the trunk using 2 ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM
budman5201   Hey iamchappy..... What kinda temps are you seein...   Aug 1 2009, 12:11 AM
RJMII   according to the huge cloud of smoke that was comi...   Jul 30 2009, 01:48 PM
kwales   Cooling air for a non-stock engine might come in f...   Jul 30 2009, 04:10 PM
d914   there is also one that drove cross county with one...   Jul 30 2009, 04:17 PM
kwales   Greg, You didn't read enough........... Unde...   Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM
d914   Im just going to have to say I dont see it... The ...   Jul 30 2009, 05:08 PM
Rand   It doesn't matter which way the air would flow...   Jul 30 2009, 07:36 PM
ottox914   Therefor, my point was you will want those fans t...   Jul 30 2009, 08:30 PM
DBCooper   All true, except Budman's car has a watercoole...   Jul 31 2009, 06:41 AM
ottox914   In the future I intend to replace the expanded m...   Jul 31 2009, 07:44 AM
DBCooper   You'll gain a bunch of IC cooling if you can ...   Aug 1 2009, 04:47 AM
RJMII   I'd like to get some of the advantages of...   Aug 1 2009, 09:16 AM
DBCooper   I'd like to get some of the advantages o...   Aug 1 2009, 02:51 PM
ottox914   By the way -- nice wheels Dave! What, you ...   Aug 1 2009, 05:58 PM
kwales   I'm re-reading this thread and a coupla though...   Aug 1 2009, 05:09 PM
RJMII   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick t...   Aug 2 2009, 02:26 AM
BIGKAT_83   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick ...   Aug 2 2009, 09:15 AM
DBCooper   Yeah, those. Beauties, aren't they? Nice nar...   Aug 1 2009, 09:30 PM
RJMII   DB; are your engine shelves still in place aroun...   Aug 2 2009, 02:27 AM
DBCooper   DB; are your engine shelves still in place arou...   Aug 2 2009, 11:01 AM
Maltese Falcon   Budman, since your set-up is water-to-air, the mai...   Aug 2 2009, 04:34 PM
iamchappy   Marty, Clewett and I all put ours back in the trun...   Aug 2 2009, 05:15 PM
charliew   Budman I really think the air to air ic in the fro...   Aug 2 2009, 10:52 PM
budman5201   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far s...   Aug 3 2009, 07:12 PM
ghuff   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far ...   Aug 3 2009, 07:21 PM
ghuff   I think maybe some naca ducts in the fenders and p...   Aug 3 2009, 07:27 PM
Maltese Falcon   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spear...   Aug 3 2009, 10:58 PM
ghuff   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spea...   Aug 4 2009, 12:40 AM
kwales   Ghuff, I don't disagree that properly design...   Aug 4 2009, 02:03 PM
db9146   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a ple...   Aug 4 2009, 02:34 PM
DBCooper   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a pl...   Aug 5 2009, 06:35 AM
paroxysm   You have to cut a huge hole in the side and fill i...   Aug 4 2009, 07:52 PM
d914   something like this might work ,, mounted low in t...   Aug 4 2009, 09:07 PM
moparrob   something like this might work ,, mounted low in ...   May 19 2010, 08:57 PM


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