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> Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed., Need a better option.....Love my water to air, but open
budman5201
post Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
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As all you probably know, i have a ej20 turbo subaru in my car. I love it and it runs great, but now i am at the point where i want to streamline how well the system works.......

First matter of attention is the intercooler placement. I have a small water to air intercooler tucked in front of the pulley on my subaru motor. It works great, but i am getting a little too much heat soak on the aluminum tubes leading to it. I was debating an idea of putting it in the rear trunk or in the fender since placement wouldnt be a factor because its a water to air. I do like the one members ORANGE nice turbo car on 914world here with the air/air one in the back and vent in the wing.....

Looking for ideas....


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post Aug 1 2009, 05:09 PM
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I'm re-reading this thread and a coupla thoughts..

You want efficiency or pretty?

If you want efficiency, hang the sucker on the outside of the car in a direction for airflow to pass through it-ie on the roof, deck lid, in the rear spoiler, etc....

Pretty is hide it like yer doing....

DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick test to solve this top to bottom or bottom to top issue????

Can you hang a coupla pieces of yarn on the top of yer intercooler, drive yer car and look at the tuft movement on the top of the intercooler in the rearview mirror at several different speeds??? If the flow is bottom to top, the yarn goes up, if the flow is top to bottom, the yarn stays down...

A piece of cheap posterboard and some duct tape can also cover yer engine grille and might give a more definitive flow answer through the smaller opening over the intercooler with the yarn test- ie: up or down.

Then again, covering the grille may change the flow....

Ain't testing fun??? Airflow is not always intuitive....

My gut says making a smooth custom top with no openings is a heat bomb. Why? Have a nice hard run, get stuck in stopped traffic, and the extra heat has to go somewhere but can't... Warm air rises, and the engine is stuck in a hotbox......If you do the run and stop test with a stock Subie car, the fan kicks on and forces cooling air through the radiator and out of the front engine compartment....

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QUOTE(kwales @ Aug 1 2009, 05:09 PM) *


DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick test to solve this top to bottom or bottom to top issue????


Ken

Ken;

I have done quick tests with both of my watercooled 914's. (I know you were talking to DB... but...)

The first one, the radiator was in the engine compartment. We HAD to figure out the airflow in order to get the cooling correct. We used strings.

This recent one, the exhaust pipe from the turbo dumps out right behind the axle and it was running quite rich when I'd put my foot into it. The cloud of smoke from the exhaust came up from the bottom, and out the top.

I'm telling you, airflow in the engine compartment is from the bottom, up and out the top.
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budman5201   Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed.   Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
budman5201   another   Jul 29 2009, 06:10 PM
ghuff   Wrap your heat tubes with nasa gold reflective foi...   Jul 29 2009, 06:42 PM
ottox914   Don't know how much space you have above the i...   Jul 30 2009, 08:13 AM
d914   I have the same idea but instead of sucking I was ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:20 AM
Rand   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:26 AM
d914   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in...   Jul 30 2009, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   airflow studies have been done by someone aroun...   Jul 30 2009, 02:52 PM
d914   [quote name='d914' post='1197233' date='Jul 30 20...   Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM
iamchappy   As you mentioned, i put mine in the trunk using 2 ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM
budman5201   Hey iamchappy..... What kinda temps are you seein...   Aug 1 2009, 12:11 AM
RJMII   according to the huge cloud of smoke that was comi...   Jul 30 2009, 01:48 PM
kwales   Cooling air for a non-stock engine might come in f...   Jul 30 2009, 04:10 PM
d914   there is also one that drove cross county with one...   Jul 30 2009, 04:17 PM
kwales   Greg, You didn't read enough........... Unde...   Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM
d914   Im just going to have to say I dont see it... The ...   Jul 30 2009, 05:08 PM
Rand   It doesn't matter which way the air would flow...   Jul 30 2009, 07:36 PM
ottox914   Therefor, my point was you will want those fans t...   Jul 30 2009, 08:30 PM
DBCooper   All true, except Budman's car has a watercoole...   Jul 31 2009, 06:41 AM
ottox914   In the future I intend to replace the expanded m...   Jul 31 2009, 07:44 AM
DBCooper   You'll gain a bunch of IC cooling if you can ...   Aug 1 2009, 04:47 AM
RJMII   I'd like to get some of the advantages of...   Aug 1 2009, 09:16 AM
DBCooper   I'd like to get some of the advantages o...   Aug 1 2009, 02:51 PM
ottox914   By the way -- nice wheels Dave! What, you ...   Aug 1 2009, 05:58 PM
kwales   I'm re-reading this thread and a coupla though...   Aug 1 2009, 05:09 PM
RJMII   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick t...   Aug 2 2009, 02:26 AM
BIGKAT_83   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick ...   Aug 2 2009, 09:15 AM
DBCooper   Yeah, those. Beauties, aren't they? Nice nar...   Aug 1 2009, 09:30 PM
RJMII   DB; are your engine shelves still in place aroun...   Aug 2 2009, 02:27 AM
DBCooper   DB; are your engine shelves still in place arou...   Aug 2 2009, 11:01 AM
Maltese Falcon   Budman, since your set-up is water-to-air, the mai...   Aug 2 2009, 04:34 PM
iamchappy   Marty, Clewett and I all put ours back in the trun...   Aug 2 2009, 05:15 PM
charliew   Budman I really think the air to air ic in the fro...   Aug 2 2009, 10:52 PM
budman5201   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far s...   Aug 3 2009, 07:12 PM
ghuff   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far ...   Aug 3 2009, 07:21 PM
ghuff   I think maybe some naca ducts in the fenders and p...   Aug 3 2009, 07:27 PM
Maltese Falcon   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spear...   Aug 3 2009, 10:58 PM
ghuff   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spea...   Aug 4 2009, 12:40 AM
kwales   Ghuff, I don't disagree that properly design...   Aug 4 2009, 02:03 PM
db9146   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a ple...   Aug 4 2009, 02:34 PM
DBCooper   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a pl...   Aug 5 2009, 06:35 AM
paroxysm   You have to cut a huge hole in the side and fill i...   Aug 4 2009, 07:52 PM
d914   something like this might work ,, mounted low in t...   Aug 4 2009, 09:07 PM
moparrob   something like this might work ,, mounted low in ...   May 19 2010, 08:57 PM


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