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> Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed., Need a better option.....Love my water to air, but open
budman5201
post Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
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As all you probably know, i have a ej20 turbo subaru in my car. I love it and it runs great, but now i am at the point where i want to streamline how well the system works.......

First matter of attention is the intercooler placement. I have a small water to air intercooler tucked in front of the pulley on my subaru motor. It works great, but i am getting a little too much heat soak on the aluminum tubes leading to it. I was debating an idea of putting it in the rear trunk or in the fender since placement wouldnt be a factor because its a water to air. I do like the one members ORANGE nice turbo car on 914world here with the air/air one in the back and vent in the wing.....

Looking for ideas....


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post Aug 2 2009, 10:52 PM
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Budman I really think the air to air ic in the front that you converted to water is letting the water move too fast through the awic system. The aaic has a different tube design than a radiator which is what you need. Heatsoak can be a real problem though in the engine compartment. I would like to know the water temp from the front entering the heat exchanger in the engine compartment compared to ambient temps. We know the motor is about 200f. If ambient is 100f and the air entering the intake of the turbo is 150-200f, that should be the easiest place to get the temps down. 150 is 50f over ambient. If the turbo is making 320f at high boost and you give it 50f cooler air that is less work for the ic.

You might buy a cheap electronic cooking thermometer and mount the probe in the air cleaner and check the incoming air temp. Then check the incoming water temp to the ic at the motor.

130f air temps may be the best you can do.
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post Aug 3 2009, 07:12 PM
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Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far so my mods to my newly built project subaru are done for a few months. Now My modded SeaDoo now thats a different story!

I am running a safe 7lbs of boost for now and pump 91 octane gas. The air intake location is probably my first mod to be done, along with exhaust wrap on all the intake and charge aluminum tubes...I'll definately post the results.

Oh also, i think i take your advice Charliew and put a regular heat exchanger up front, possible a nice huge A/C condensor. (that should slow down the flow and actually give it time to cool down.) They actually save about 5 lbs of weight off that air/air converted one i did. I thought heat would be a problem when i installed my A/C, but my temps are still 195 Max when freezing inside and 113 degrees here in AZ.
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budman5201   Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed.   Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
budman5201   another   Jul 29 2009, 06:10 PM
ghuff   Wrap your heat tubes with nasa gold reflective foi...   Jul 29 2009, 06:42 PM
ottox914   Don't know how much space you have above the i...   Jul 30 2009, 08:13 AM
d914   I have the same idea but instead of sucking I was ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:20 AM
Rand   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:26 AM
d914   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in...   Jul 30 2009, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   airflow studies have been done by someone aroun...   Jul 30 2009, 02:52 PM
d914   [quote name='d914' post='1197233' date='Jul 30 20...   Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM
iamchappy   As you mentioned, i put mine in the trunk using 2 ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM
budman5201   Hey iamchappy..... What kinda temps are you seein...   Aug 1 2009, 12:11 AM
RJMII   according to the huge cloud of smoke that was comi...   Jul 30 2009, 01:48 PM
kwales   Cooling air for a non-stock engine might come in f...   Jul 30 2009, 04:10 PM
d914   there is also one that drove cross county with one...   Jul 30 2009, 04:17 PM
kwales   Greg, You didn't read enough........... Unde...   Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM
d914   Im just going to have to say I dont see it... The ...   Jul 30 2009, 05:08 PM
Rand   It doesn't matter which way the air would flow...   Jul 30 2009, 07:36 PM
ottox914   Therefor, my point was you will want those fans t...   Jul 30 2009, 08:30 PM
DBCooper   All true, except Budman's car has a watercoole...   Jul 31 2009, 06:41 AM
ottox914   In the future I intend to replace the expanded m...   Jul 31 2009, 07:44 AM
DBCooper   You'll gain a bunch of IC cooling if you can ...   Aug 1 2009, 04:47 AM
RJMII   I'd like to get some of the advantages of...   Aug 1 2009, 09:16 AM
DBCooper   I'd like to get some of the advantages o...   Aug 1 2009, 02:51 PM
ottox914   By the way -- nice wheels Dave! What, you ...   Aug 1 2009, 05:58 PM
kwales   I'm re-reading this thread and a coupla though...   Aug 1 2009, 05:09 PM
RJMII   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick t...   Aug 2 2009, 02:26 AM
BIGKAT_83   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick ...   Aug 2 2009, 09:15 AM
DBCooper   Yeah, those. Beauties, aren't they? Nice nar...   Aug 1 2009, 09:30 PM
RJMII   DB; are your engine shelves still in place aroun...   Aug 2 2009, 02:27 AM
DBCooper   DB; are your engine shelves still in place arou...   Aug 2 2009, 11:01 AM
Maltese Falcon   Budman, since your set-up is water-to-air, the mai...   Aug 2 2009, 04:34 PM
iamchappy   Marty, Clewett and I all put ours back in the trun...   Aug 2 2009, 05:15 PM
charliew   Budman I really think the air to air ic in the fro...   Aug 2 2009, 10:52 PM
budman5201   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far s...   Aug 3 2009, 07:12 PM
ghuff   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far ...   Aug 3 2009, 07:21 PM
ghuff   I think maybe some naca ducts in the fenders and p...   Aug 3 2009, 07:27 PM
Maltese Falcon   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spear...   Aug 3 2009, 10:58 PM
ghuff   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spea...   Aug 4 2009, 12:40 AM
kwales   Ghuff, I don't disagree that properly design...   Aug 4 2009, 02:03 PM
db9146   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a ple...   Aug 4 2009, 02:34 PM
DBCooper   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a pl...   Aug 5 2009, 06:35 AM
paroxysm   You have to cut a huge hole in the side and fill i...   Aug 4 2009, 07:52 PM
d914   something like this might work ,, mounted low in t...   Aug 4 2009, 09:07 PM
moparrob   something like this might work ,, mounted low in ...   May 19 2010, 08:57 PM


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