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> Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed., Need a better option.....Love my water to air, but open
budman5201
post Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
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As all you probably know, i have a ej20 turbo subaru in my car. I love it and it runs great, but now i am at the point where i want to streamline how well the system works.......

First matter of attention is the intercooler placement. I have a small water to air intercooler tucked in front of the pulley on my subaru motor. It works great, but i am getting a little too much heat soak on the aluminum tubes leading to it. I was debating an idea of putting it in the rear trunk or in the fender since placement wouldnt be a factor because its a water to air. I do like the one members ORANGE nice turbo car on 914world here with the air/air one in the back and vent in the wing.....

Looking for ideas....


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post Aug 4 2009, 02:03 PM
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Ghuff,

I don't disagree that properly designed ducting increases efficiency on any front mounted radiators -air, water or oil. Colin Chapman proved that with his much copied radiator design used on his Lotus products. Colin found that for front mounted radiators, the proper shrouding design produced a 3-4X cooliing factor. He used shrouding that acted like a scoop and directed high pressure air into the front of the radiator. The shrouding also created a low pressure area behind the radiator for a push-me pull-you effect and much greater efficiency.

The 914 is a different case- engine is in the middle and out of the airflow. Unlike mounting an intercooler in a stream of cool air, the problem is more like putting an intercooler in a box with a small hole in it for airflow and a coupla fans to pull through. If the air flow comes from the bottom of the car, then the air run across the intercooler will be hotter than air drawn from higher up. That says placing the intercooler into a location that can receive cooler air would be good.

One of my suggestions is placing the intercooler in the spoiler. When the car moves, you get high pressure on one side, low pressure on the other, with the spoiler acting as a part of a duct.

Here's a thought. Go back and look at the Lamborghini Countach. The car has the same problem- midship engine, vertical rear window, and cooling in the rear. There were a lot of design changes over the years from the sleek prototype to the variety of later versions where they tried to get the radiators to cool properly. Maybe one of them will provide an idea for intercooler placement.
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budman5201   Intercooler Placement IDEAs Needed.   Jul 29 2009, 06:09 PM
budman5201   another   Jul 29 2009, 06:10 PM
ghuff   Wrap your heat tubes with nasa gold reflective foi...   Jul 29 2009, 06:42 PM
ottox914   Don't know how much space you have above the i...   Jul 30 2009, 08:13 AM
d914   I have the same idea but instead of sucking I was ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:20 AM
Rand   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:26 AM
d914   Airflow is which way? Stock, cooling air comes in...   Jul 30 2009, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   airflow studies have been done by someone aroun...   Jul 30 2009, 02:52 PM
d914   [quote name='d914' post='1197233' date='Jul 30 20...   Jul 30 2009, 04:07 PM
iamchappy   As you mentioned, i put mine in the trunk using 2 ...   Jul 30 2009, 10:58 AM
budman5201   Hey iamchappy..... What kinda temps are you seein...   Aug 1 2009, 12:11 AM
RJMII   according to the huge cloud of smoke that was comi...   Jul 30 2009, 01:48 PM
kwales   Cooling air for a non-stock engine might come in f...   Jul 30 2009, 04:10 PM
d914   there is also one that drove cross county with one...   Jul 30 2009, 04:17 PM
kwales   Greg, You didn't read enough........... Unde...   Jul 30 2009, 04:22 PM
d914   Im just going to have to say I dont see it... The ...   Jul 30 2009, 05:08 PM
Rand   It doesn't matter which way the air would flow...   Jul 30 2009, 07:36 PM
ottox914   Therefor, my point was you will want those fans t...   Jul 30 2009, 08:30 PM
DBCooper   All true, except Budman's car has a watercoole...   Jul 31 2009, 06:41 AM
ottox914   In the future I intend to replace the expanded m...   Jul 31 2009, 07:44 AM
DBCooper   You'll gain a bunch of IC cooling if you can ...   Aug 1 2009, 04:47 AM
RJMII   I'd like to get some of the advantages of...   Aug 1 2009, 09:16 AM
DBCooper   I'd like to get some of the advantages o...   Aug 1 2009, 02:51 PM
ottox914   By the way -- nice wheels Dave! What, you ...   Aug 1 2009, 05:58 PM
kwales   I'm re-reading this thread and a coupla though...   Aug 1 2009, 05:09 PM
RJMII   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick t...   Aug 2 2009, 02:26 AM
BIGKAT_83   DB, what's stopping you from doing a quick ...   Aug 2 2009, 09:15 AM
DBCooper   Yeah, those. Beauties, aren't they? Nice nar...   Aug 1 2009, 09:30 PM
RJMII   DB; are your engine shelves still in place aroun...   Aug 2 2009, 02:27 AM
DBCooper   DB; are your engine shelves still in place arou...   Aug 2 2009, 11:01 AM
Maltese Falcon   Budman, since your set-up is water-to-air, the mai...   Aug 2 2009, 04:34 PM
iamchappy   Marty, Clewett and I all put ours back in the trun...   Aug 2 2009, 05:15 PM
charliew   Budman I really think the air to air ic in the fro...   Aug 2 2009, 10:52 PM
budman5201   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far s...   Aug 3 2009, 07:12 PM
ghuff   Thanks guys. Its really been a hot summer so far ...   Aug 3 2009, 07:21 PM
ghuff   I think maybe some naca ducts in the fenders and p...   Aug 3 2009, 07:27 PM
Maltese Falcon   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spear...   Aug 3 2009, 10:58 PM
ghuff   go to the Turbonetics site and check out the Spea...   Aug 4 2009, 12:40 AM
kwales   Ghuff, I don't disagree that properly design...   Aug 4 2009, 02:03 PM
db9146   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a ple...   Aug 4 2009, 02:34 PM
DBCooper   Since its driven in autocross, why not build a pl...   Aug 5 2009, 06:35 AM
paroxysm   You have to cut a huge hole in the side and fill i...   Aug 4 2009, 07:52 PM
d914   something like this might work ,, mounted low in t...   Aug 4 2009, 09:07 PM
moparrob   something like this might work ,, mounted low in ...   May 19 2010, 08:57 PM


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