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ottox914 |
Aug 5 2009, 10:05 AM
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The glory that once was. Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Mahtomedi, MN Member No.: 1,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
While building the next generation turbo motor for the 914, thoughts turn to putting the power down. I'm currently autocrossing with 205-50-15's on 7" wide Keizer rims, with a slight pull of the rear fender, the return lip cut off, and some spacers to keep things from rubbing on the inside. Puts about 8.3" on the ground for the 710's I'm running currently. I'm expecting around 200 whp, with a class min wt for the car of 2150 or so. I don't see a need to convert to 5 lug, as I have some nice panasports for street driving that I like, and the bigger brakes wouldn't buy me that much in a 60 second autocross. On a road course, yup, bigger brakes better, for autocross, lets keep it light. Car runs in what used to be SM2, is now SSM. Here's the kicker- even with 4 season old 205's, in 150+ car grids, with several national jacket winners and a dozen or so trophy winners, I can put the car in the top 20, top 10 if I have a great day. So how much more tire do I really need to have fun locally, which is what the intent of the car is. I know it will never be the perfect weapon for a season of divisional/national events in SSM.
Here are some options I'm considering: - run 225-50-15's on the same 7" rims, do a little metal pounding/pulling to keep a basically stock looking fender profile. This would add about an inch of rubber on the road from the 205's, and be the cheepest solution, other than just staying with the 205's - run 245-50-16's, which would require new rims in a 16 x 8 size, 4x130 bolt pattern. Diamond racing makes a 20# rim for $150 that would work, (but is a little porky) has a 4 1/2 back space, should fit under a standard GT flare, but this means more $$$, rims, FG flares, install, in addition to paint. It only adds about 1.5" from the 205 size contact patch, only 1/2" from the 225's. I don't expect I could get all that much for my Keizers, and new ones would be what, 1200 to 1500 or so? Thats alot of green. - run the hoosier 275-35-15's, which like a 9.5" rim. I could get new hoops for the keizers, and keep the inside hoop and hub, which would keep the correct back space and bolt pattern for the car, would still need flares and paint. This tire puts 10.8" on the ground, approx. 2.5" up from the current 205's. Haven't checked lately, but don't think I can tub the car in SSM, although in XP that would be allowed. Anyone running the 275-35-15 on a 914, or anything similar in a tire/rim/flare combo? Can it be done w/out making the car stupid wide, which of course would not be the best for slithering thru a slalom? Up north here in WI, the guys running slicks have problems for 1/2 the season- it just is so hard to get even the softest of them up to temp unless we have hot sun and 90 degrees out, so I would plan to stick with the DOT "R" rubber. Thoughts? |
Joe Ricard |
Aug 6 2009, 02:40 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
The rears of a 914 will support 5 1/2" back space as will the fronts.
I run 22.5 x 9 x 15 Slicks and are nearly the same size as the 275.35 Ho's DSP as I remember does not allow flares. at least not 914 GT style. Stock fenders can not be stretched big enough to a 275 Turbo motor puts you SSM, flares and 275 Ho's are all good. Like JP and Josh said More rubber the better. Yup new rubber is the only way to go fast. top 10 of 100 with your old tires tells me your pond is full but lacking any big fish. How do you fair with SSM PAX? Oh and yes you can get heat in front 275's with a lite 914. It's called go faster. Gas is on the right, it goes to the floor. |
jhadler |
Aug 6 2009, 02:49 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
The rears of a 914 will support 5 1/2" back space as will the fronts. Really?? I have 4-7/8"backspace, and I'm right on the edge of rubbing the inner fender well on both sides. Just a reminder, all 914's are built a little differently... QUOTE I run 22.5 x 9 x 15 Slicks and are nearly the same size as the 275.35 Ho's Are you running standard GT flares? The big tahrs will fit? QUOTE DSP as I remember does not allow flares. at least not 914 GT style. Actually, SP has even more liberal wheel and fender allowances than Prepared. SP you just sawzall the clearance and let the tire hang out there in the wind. Prepared, you have to cover at least 1/2 of the tread face if I recall. QUOTE Stock fenders can not be stretched big enough to a 275 Yeah, fitting 275's require (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) QUOTE Oh and yes you can get heat in front 275's with a lite 914. It's called go faster. Gas is on the right, it goes to the floor. S'TRUTH!! -Josh2 |
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