 KitCarlson EMS Poll, How many should I build ??? |
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| KitCarlson |
 Feb 11 2004, 04:21 PM
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Hey,
I know this question has a difficult answer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I would like to know a ball park number of EMS units to build in the first release. I need to order the mechanical parts and work with a contract manufacturer for the board build. Setup costs can be a significant cost for small orders. Lead time is also a concern. Why is this question difficult? You are being asked to suggest to me your potential interest without knowing the exact cost or performance of the system. The beta test unit is not yet in operation due to Brad's move. It was my hope to have un-biased tests in progress at this time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I have been working on the system full time since the start in October. The next step is to be production ready. For those wondering what is the EMS. It is an engine management system that provides direct ignition, fuel, idle, and turbo boost control for VW and Porsche engines. It uses a special optical distributor sensor means to avoid the mechanical difficulties in crank/cam sensors. The ignition timing is electronic. The unit provides an easy upgrade for the D-Jetronic or L-Jetronic systems. The system will be sold turn-key with all parts and harness. For more information please visit: http://home.mindspring.com/~dave.c/kitcarlson/ Please use a personal message to suggest your interest. I will answer questions you may have. I really appreciate this BB that works to unite all 914 owners, and a means to conduct this poll. Kit |
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| Mueller |
Feb 11 2004, 04:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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Tough call.....I know there is a market for it and it will sell as long as the price and ease of use is within reason for the average DIY person and or shop. Not many will want to buy this if they have to take it to a shop and pay $500 or more for installation due to it not being plug-n-play.
If you are trying to target the 911 or 914/6 crowd, it'll be much tougher since more than likely they have carbs or MFI or CIS. None of these systems are as easy to convert to EFI as much as the L-Jet and D-jet are. Can you offer a discount for a pre-order to help finance the process? |
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KitCarlson KitCarlson EMS Poll Feb 11 2004, 04:21 PM
KitCarlson Mueller,
You have good comments. :trophy:
The ... Feb 11 2004, 05:30 PM Targa Mueller is on the money! It WILL have to be co... Feb 11 2004, 06:00 PM ThinAir914 I'm interested - eventually. Unfortunately I ... Feb 11 2004, 06:18 PM KitCarlson Targa,
160 HP with stock injectors should not be ... Feb 11 2004, 06:31 PM 94teener If the system will work with supercharger boost, I... Feb 11 2004, 06:50 PM Targa Kit,
Thanks for your thorough and prompt answers.... Feb 11 2004, 06:54 PM Mark Henry Whatever the number of people who say they want on... Feb 11 2004, 07:00 PM nebreitling i'm certainly interested, my main factors are
... Feb 11 2004, 07:39 PM KitCarlson Phil,
Yes there is a EMS version for boost applica... Feb 11 2004, 07:41 PM Brad Roberts Electricity was turned on TODAY. I can now start w... Feb 11 2004, 07:48 PM tracks914 Forgive my ignorance but what is the point of this... Feb 11 2004, 08:48 PM JoshuaSkinner I'm interested as I want to turbo the 1.8 in m... Feb 11 2004, 09:14 PM RD Evans I am very interest in a system to replace a single... Feb 11 2004, 09:37 PM KitCarlson I will try to provide as many answers as possible ... Feb 11 2004, 10:49 PM Andyrew How much$?
I didnt see it anywhere, and most... Feb 11 2004, 10:57 PM Bleyseng I too was wondering how much, I thought maybe my o... Feb 11 2004, 11:07 PM Air_Cooled_Nut Kit,
I'm looking for a FI system for my <... Feb 12 2004, 12:25 AM Racer Chris If the control unit can be made to fit in the fact... Feb 12 2004, 12:34 AM bernbomb914 I would be interested in buying your product now a... Feb 12 2004, 12:45 AM kdfoust Kit;
I'm pretty excited about this kit becaus... Feb 12 2004, 01:56 AM KitCarlson More answers:
The EMS Kit will cost more than ... Feb 12 2004, 08:40 AM KitCarlson On the EMS communications:
This may only make sen... Feb 12 2004, 10:09 AM Hi_Fi_Guy I have a RAT 2270 and would be VERY interested.
... Feb 12 2004, 11:56 AM Air_Cooled_Nut From the sounds of it, you would simply download t... Feb 12 2004, 03:33 PM seanery Hey everyone, if you think 2k is overpriced then p... Feb 12 2004, 03:41 PM DuckRyder Here is my view on pricing.
I think it can cost m... Feb 12 2004, 05:28 PM Mark Henry Both seanery [u]AND Air_Cooled_Nut are correct abo... Feb 12 2004, 05:36 PM Cloudbuster Kit,
A not so hypothetical scenario:
I've go... Feb 12 2004, 05:45 PM KitCarlson Cloudbuster,
Yes, swap parts, replace vane air met... Feb 12 2004, 07:47 PM DuckRyder QUOTE
Carrera916 Kit,
After reading this thread and your website a... Feb 12 2004, 11:44 PM KitCarlson QUOTE
rhodyguy what is the "tube" that replaces the "vane"? as th... Feb 13 2004, 09:55 AM Bleyseng Kevin, he states that it uses a electronic pressur... Feb 13 2004, 10:05 AM rhodyguy so the monster air filter box goes away? i still h... Feb 13 2004, 10:14 AM darisb Kit,
I've been watching your project, with in... Feb 13 2004, 10:26 AM Mueller QUOTE
rhodyguy maybe just some pvc pipe and a cone filter?
kevin Feb 13 2004, 10:50 AM mike_the_man One thing I was wondering about; What type of sup... Feb 13 2004, 10:59 AM KitCarlson Sorry could not include Word Document drawing of c... Feb 13 2004, 11:07 AM DNHunt I don't know if this would help but I've c... Feb 13 2004, 11:57 AM crash914 Check out these throttle bodies......Now I have a ... Feb 13 2004, 12:08 PM rhodyguy you know what? you still have to dial in the linka... Feb 13 2004, 12:45 PM Air_Cooled_Nut ... Feb 13 2004, 12:56 PM Air_Cooled_Nut cha914 Sounds like a great system...but for us carb guys ... Feb 13 2004, 01:36 PM KitCarlson Cha914,
You will need D-jet intakes, injectors, th... Feb 13 2004, 02:12 PM KitCarlson All,
Thanks for all the good comments and advice.... Feb 15 2004, 09:37 AM F4i I too am very interested in your kit. I am also im... Feb 15 2004, 10:49 AM KitCarlson F4i,
I have thought about the upgrade of the FI t... Feb 15 2004, 01:15 PM Mark Henry So I take it this is a wasted spark system. (NOT t... Feb 15 2004, 01:32 PM KitCarlson Mark,
Yes, the system is a waste fire. 1 & 3 in ... Feb 15 2004, 01:57 PM bernbomb914 What would be better D jet or L jet systems I have... Feb 15 2004, 07:44 PM KitCarlson Bernie,
The D-jet does not require the tube to re... Feb 16 2004, 08:06 AM Mark Henry Feb 16 2004, 01:01 PM
F4i I was mostly wondering for cost comparison. I am m... Feb 16 2004, 01:25 PM
Gary Kit,
Depending on the price point, I'll likel... Feb 16 2004, 02:10 PM
F4i I was mostly wondering for cost comparison. I am m... Feb 16 2004, 01:25 PM Gary Kit,
Depending on the price point, I'll likel... Feb 16 2004, 02:10 PM |
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